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the smoke radio

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for the masses headline additionally

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july 8 1947

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the army air force's has announced that

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a flying disc has been found and

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is now in the possession of the army if

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the game is rigged

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change the game game changer

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i occasionally think how quickly our

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differences worldwide

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would vanish if we were facing an alien

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from outside this world

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church

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on the game changer radio network and

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i need your help to get to the year

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1985.

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you are listening to fate to flag with

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good evening all right fade to black

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bespoke radio for

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i am and how you doing today is monday

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2021 60 days into the new year

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a bunker that is somewhere in the middle

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of beautiful downtown burbank california

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and i would like to welcome

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everybody listening all around the world

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all across the united states

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hither and tether to and fro back and

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far and near this is fade to black for

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the game changer network and kg are a

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the planets

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i'm yours jimmy church what is cracking

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everybody how you doing

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another great week an amazing week

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next week is amazing too

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whoa but before i get too deep into the

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want to say congratulations to stacy and

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that is stacy with an eye with a heart

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stacy and dan just saw a picture of

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their new grandson william and let me

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tell you something

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it don't get no better than that it it

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came in at 6 59. congratulations stacy

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that's amazing and uh we have two

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and and and so does rita

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but there's another part of me is like

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just a minute it's not about being a

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when it comes to the grumpy dad and

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to have these grandkids and and great

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made made my day made my night there you

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go fade or not everybody congratulate

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bunker cam i hope that's cool

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hope that's cool but uh there you go all

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an amazing week we've got coming up

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tonight john desouza

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is here now john is

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john and of course

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fbi agent retired right john de souza

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and this recent american airlines flight

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and its ufo sighting that happened last

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sunday and is now under investigation

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depth tonight we're going to be talking

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about disclosure we're going to be

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the uap task force what is going

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uh the type of sighting and the timing

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tomorrow night i am so looking forward

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to this show

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the one and only jim

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harold is here and i know everybody out

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there is excited about this of course he

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is the long

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time host of the paranormal podcast and

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uh one one of the great podcasts out

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there one of the first two

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and he's of course got jim harold's

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campfire he's got pod lords he's got

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soulmate stories he is a

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very very busy media host

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and absolutely hands down one of the

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best out there one of the most respected

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researcher

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book out it is called

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inventing world 3.0 evolutionary ethics

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for

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artificial intelligence um jim

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and then matthew jim harold uh matthew

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um is a consultant advisor

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researcher for for governments and

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institutions around the world he is one

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this is a huge show this is wednesday

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the call-in number is 747-228-2051

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we'll see everybody there now

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uh an amazing week and what is lining up

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um i'm very very excited about and

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okay all right everybody wants their own

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crystal skull and uh over the weekend

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uh finally had a chance to relax it it's

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and so i got a little social media time

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and i i wish i could have them all

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about this and were like man did you see

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that did you see this one

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how about this one incredible stuff

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and you've got to go to einstein the

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crystalskull.com

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you've got to head over there and check

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out what she has got her

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inventory is the absolute best and uh

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when you when you find a skull just use

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the promo code jimmy

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j-i-m-m-y it's all you got to do 10 off

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of your next

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uh crystal skull order and you can do

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all of that over at einstein the

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crystalskull.com the links are at

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jimmychurchradio.com

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and uh there you go let's get things

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started got a lot to talk about tonight

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you can follow me on twitter at j church

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of me so there you go come and hang out

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let's get to the breaking news

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a former underground nuclear bunker and

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i've seen the pictures

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it's incredible wait till you get to the

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of this news story it's incredible a

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former underground nuclear

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two stories underground

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sealed everything

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is there has gone on sale in devon

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united kingdom the bunker known as

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hope cove bunker is situated near

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salcombe in devon

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and was constructed in 1941 to be used

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as a second world war

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radar station however

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with the threat of a nuclear attack

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during the cold war the structure was

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redeveloped in the 1950s into a regional

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government base the base remained on

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standby until the 1990s and would have

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the bunker is on sale

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at the bargain price of 435

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000 pounds or about 600 grand

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us and that

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cheap to me 600 grand

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not 10 million right 600 grand

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and i i i hope that there's somebody

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fate or not that is going really what

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what devin what yeah okay let me give it

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to you one more time it's called the

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cove bunker somebody go make it off on

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that come on fader knots

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let's let's get 56 rooms

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right we could have the ultimate fade or

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not getaway weekend

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think about that and that that's where

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immediately i'm like the fader dots man

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we all get together

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underground sky watch at night

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yeah it's pretty cool it's pretty cool

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go and check it out

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all right now here we go i got some ufo

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idaho looked to the skies and saw

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lots of weird things they experienced

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ufos a lot of them

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a recent tally by satelliteinternet.com

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showed that idaho ranked number one

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in ufo sightings per capita

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in 2020 even more than you know

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what about new mexico jimmy more than

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new mexico that's right

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out above everything you think about

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roswell they've got a museum

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right the roswell is roswell ranked

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fifth idaho logged 164 sightings

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in 2020. thousands more were tallied

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across the nation but i know what you're

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saying right now you're saying but jimmy

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what's what's the rank what's the top

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ten

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well i've got it right here this

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is the top ten

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sightings of ufos in the united states

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per capita number 10

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connecticut number nine

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washington state number eight

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hawaii number seven

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wyoming number six

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vermont number five

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i just mentioned new mexico number four

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maine number three

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new hampshire number two

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montana number one

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idaho absolutely incredible california

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texas dead last texas

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california which had a huge amount of

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sightings

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that's probably number one overall but

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the capita here we've got too many

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people uh california was like number 45

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way down the list

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all right the lamborghini of chariots

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has been discovered at pompeii

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calling it an exceptional discovery

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researchers at pompeii have announced

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the uncovering of an ancient ceremonial

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chariot from a villa

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near the famous italian archaeological

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site now the announcement

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came on saturday called the chariot an

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extraordinary fine

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that has no parallel in italy

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thus far the chariot is preserved in

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remarkable detail the pictures are

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absolutely incredible

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with four iron wheels metal armrest and

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back rests

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and a seat perched atop that could sit

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one or two

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people absolutely incredible it's

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incredible

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it's kind of blue it's got all these

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medallions on it

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yeah it's pretty cool it's pretty cool

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let's get to show crack and happy

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birthday to today

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the one and only ron howard

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ron howard today is 67

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rock icon roger daltrey today

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is 77 reg a

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o g burning

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spear today is 73 and i cannot believe

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he's younger than roger daltrey

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i cannot been a burning spear fan

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forever

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skid row og stick man rob a fuso

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today is 58 that's right i'll remember

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you

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that's right jin blossom bassist

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bill lean today is 59 i was in the

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studio

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in with the jim blossoms uh

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back in this is around 1995.

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and doing i this is my memory

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is that we were recording i was just

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there i wasn't actually

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doing the recording my friend billy was

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uh billy siegel uh recording backup

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vocals uh for their new album the

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follow-up to the big hit whatever that

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was called

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so anyway we're in the studio recording

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and he's out there i'm behind the glass

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uh with billy

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when a friggin car

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crashed into the studio it was bill lee

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now vocals

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and he we're on the back half of the

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studio i remember looking through the

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glass

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and the whole building shakes he's got

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headphones on he's cutting

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vocals and this car crashes

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into the studio uh through these walls

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and everything it was incredible that's

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like

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two crashing car stories into buildings

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that i've shared with you this week our

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dead guy's birthday today

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alan thicke 1947 to 2016 died at the age

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of 69.

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alan of course was an actor and a game

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and talk show host

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he's also known as the father of singer

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robin

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thicke in 2013 he was inducted into

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canada's walk of fame

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for me he will always be dr jason

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seaver on the 1980 sitcom growing pains

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it was on december 13 2016 when alan

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collapsed while playing ice hockey with

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his son carter at the pickwick gardens

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right here in burbank california and

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died later that day

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of type a aortic dissection

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at the providence saint joseph medical

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center also right here

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in burbank at the age of 69. on this day

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in history otd 1966

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venera 3. a soviet probe launched from

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kazakhstan

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crashes on venus although venera 3

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failed in its mission to measure the

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venusian atmosphere

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it was the first unmanned spacecraft to

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reach

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the surface of another planet fader fact

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okay you ready need you to think about

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this one

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drivers with more expensive cars

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are likely or are less likely

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to yield to pedestrians

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a study has found that the likelihood of

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yielding

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goes down by three percent for every

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extra one thousand dollars in car

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value that's right and so the lesson

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here is

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never step in front of a moving

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rolls-royce

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or ferrari all right tonight very

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special guest

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john de souza joins us we're going to be

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talking about the recent ufo sightings

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by american airlines 2292 we're going to

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be talking about the uap

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uh task force and what is going on with

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that tomorrow night

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jim herald is here of course the host of

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the paranormal podcast

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wednesday night author and researcher

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matthew bailey

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is here we're going to be talking about

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his new book which i do have it

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is called inventing world 3.0

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evolutionary ethics for

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artificial intelligence thursday another

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fader night with open lines all night

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long

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now do you see that post today of 20

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pounds of

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river moon fade to black blend delivered

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to a fader knot

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you like that 20 pounds of beans

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you gotta love it i'm gonna hit mine

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yep

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rivermoonwellness.com promo code f2b

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the amazon store too

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all of the links are over at

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jimmychurchradio.com

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all right so last week

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during our ama there were a few

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questions that were posted about people

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wanting to hear rock and roll stories

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and i caught them again over the weekend

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because i just told you i had social

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media time you know i was relaxing and i

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was

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actually spent an hour or two scrolling

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with my cell phone and and i caught

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these questions again

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and you know who you are if you posted

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them and i thought about it a lot

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so i'm thinking to myself every story

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that is actually pretty cool and totally

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rock and roll that you want to hear

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can't be told they're all just to rock

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and roll

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right they involve something that well

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just shouldn't be

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shared at least not on a public radio

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show that is listened to by

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all ages this is a family this is family

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programming

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and you know what i mean so i really

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gave this some thought

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do they all have to have the crazy

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i know what you want to hear i i know

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that

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you gotta hit me in private time at a

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conference

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but but they all don't have to have the

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crazy

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they don't so i'm gonna share this

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feel good story with you and yes

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it's totally rock and roll when we were

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on tour with sound garden

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we pulled into atlanta hotlanta

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atlanta and we arrived at our hotel and

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as i was getting off of our bus

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it was a big rv um i'm getting off of

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that

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and chris cornell singer of sound garden

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was walking out of the hotel with a

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duffel bag

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right and i said dude

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you know where are you going and he said

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there's a laundromat right there

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right because i'm washing my clothes

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and he points over my shoulder i'm not

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kidding he's like you know and i turn

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around and there is a laundromat

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right literally right next to our hotel

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it's down this little hill there's a

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strip mall

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right at the right next to the right

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there is a friggin

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laundromat he looks at me

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sees my bag and said do you want to wash

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your clothes too

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and i said absolutely so instead of

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checking into the hotel

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i turned around and walked down the hill

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through some grass to the laundromat

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with chris

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and we do everything we get some change

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buy some detergent you know those little

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boxes we do that we empty our bags we

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separate our colors from the whites

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right we fire up like four washing

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machines

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and my memory says that we were like the

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only people

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um in the laundromat at that time

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and and we sit and talk for like the

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next two or three hours

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but yeah we did the whole trip bounce

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sheets and all did everything and i

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remember

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smelling the fresh clothes as we folded

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and stuffed our bags

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and i made a mental note about how ripe

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we probably were at that moment with our

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dirty clothes on that we were wearing

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you know so rock and roll and uh you

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know we're done we split back to the

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hotel

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later that night during the show

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chris and i did our thing on stage

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he carried me around on his shoulder

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remember back then i was 110 pounds wet

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you know carried me around on his

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shoulder during the song

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kevin's mom and at that moment

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before he threw me out into the crowd

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to surf instead of

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thinking about how epic and rock and

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roll this was

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this moment i thought to myself

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it's a true story can't make this stuff

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up

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and see i told you

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it's actually possible to have a clean

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really really clean and uh

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a little closer to this i remember

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i remember later on that night uh

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chris and i was after the show i think

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we were back at the hotel

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had a moment or whatever and but i

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i remember looking and he looked at me

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and

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clean clothes that literally

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a few hours before that we were folding

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and we had that moment that moment of

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connection

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like you feel fresh huh

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you feel fresh it's true story true

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that's my clean rock and roll story this

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is fade to black we have got

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an amazing week coming up tonight john

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d'souza is here we're going to be

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talking about the recent ufo sighting

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over new mexico

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by american airlines 2292 being

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investigated by the fbi

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right now what is going on with

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this event so we're going to be talking

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about that and all of the other ufo uap

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news and of course the uh the uap task

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force

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and the report that's coming up we're

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going to be talking about that is there

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an agenda

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going on here right now so we're going

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to talk about that

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tomorrow night jim harold host of the

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paranormal podcast is here so excited

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about this is going to be great

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and then wednesday night author and

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researcher matthew bailey

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it's gonna be here talking about his new

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book it is called inventing world

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3.0 evolutionary ethics for artificial

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intelligence

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it's a big night on wednesday you're not

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going to want to miss that of course

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thursday is another fader night with

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all right meals jimmy church this is

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[Music]

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welcome back fade to black i am your

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host jimmy church

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what a great week we've got lined up

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tonight of course john de souza is here

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tomorrow night

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jim harold i know what you're thinking

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how is it possible

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jim harold how did jimmy church pull

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that off i did

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jim harold's with us tomorrow night

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wednesday night matthew

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bailey and his new book inventing world

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3.0 it's a full night of artificial

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intelligence

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but tonight it's about john de souza

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john joins us to discuss

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the recent ufo encounter american

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00:35:18,630 --> 00:35:16,720
airlines 2292

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over new mexico we're going to dive deep

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into that and

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the current investigation that is going

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on with the fbi into the incident we're

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also going to be talking about the uap

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00:35:30,790 --> 00:35:29,760
task force the disclosure agenda what is

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really going on

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we're going to be talking about that and

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of course the release of the report

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later on this summer to the senate

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intelligence committee

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john fbi special agent retired worked

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counterterrorism and paranormal cases

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for 25 years also known as

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the x-man he lived through the true

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life x-files that were used on the

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highly popular television show the

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x-files today

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he is revealing these stories

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unexplained mysteries and the paranormal

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he's also the best-selling author of the

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extra dimensionals an

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excellent book by the way and leading

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investigations into the paranormal and

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exopolitics his website is

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johntamabooks.com johntammabooks.com the

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link is over at jimmychurchradio.com

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and i would like to welcome back to fade

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to black our good friend john de souza

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john good evening man you look great

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hey jimmy wow it is great to be here

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with you again

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on fade to black with you and all the

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fader nuts

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and all the aap pilots who listen in to

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you

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it's awesome to be here good stuff man

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great stuff

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did you all the uap pilots oh

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man that is just too funny um i i don't

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even know where to start with you john

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um there is so much going on and

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last weekend uh when

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uh i was hosting uh the conscious life

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expo okay so that's going on all weekend

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and i'm hosting friday saturday and

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sunday and on sunday

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i get an email and a text um

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and i i think it came in uh from two

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different sources one of them was jim

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goodall

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right okay so it comes in you know jimmy

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you gotta check this out here's a link

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and so i'm during uh one of the breaks

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and i'm listening to the audio

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i'm reading a little bit about

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uh the flight now back then

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it was breaking news and it was fluid

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john so

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the destin the source i think it said it

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was out of ohio

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i think it turned out to be kentucky

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or whatever but there were some

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inaccuracies there

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um but i broke the news live uh

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at the conscious life expo and i said

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this this has

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everything in it to blow up and become

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a huge story this week and we're

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breaking it now

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i don't know what the details are but

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we'll start and

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00:37:59,829 --> 00:37:59,359
sure enough monday tuesday wednesday

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right

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everything just started to unfold with

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this it's a pretty incredible case

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then there was the twist the fbi is

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involved

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so let let's back up let's let's go back

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uh to when the story started to break

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what did you

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think then as you heard the details and

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listen to the flight recording

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when i first listened to it jimmy uh

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what i what i heard was

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really um what sounded like

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to me a hostile missile attack

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on an american airliner that's

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overall when i just got the first

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impression of it that's

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what i heard and uh it took me back

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uh unfortunately it took me back to uh

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uh

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some kind of bizarre action that went

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off

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new york

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with twa airliner that was just taking

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off

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and just came out and then

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people witnesses said they saw some kind

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of projectile

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go up towards the uh airliner

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and then the airliner blew up and the

849
00:39:27,190 --> 00:39:23,119
airliner blew up

850
00:39:29,670 --> 00:39:27,200
however on the ground the

851
00:39:30,630 --> 00:39:29,680
on the ground the investigations were

852
00:39:33,190 --> 00:39:30,640
stopped

853
00:39:33,910 --> 00:39:33,200
into these eyewitnesses uh they were

854
00:39:36,870 --> 00:39:33,920
stopped

855
00:39:37,750 --> 00:39:36,880
and the whole thing was ruled an

856
00:39:42,630 --> 00:39:37,760
accident

857
00:39:44,950 --> 00:39:42,640
1994 and that was

858
00:39:46,069 --> 00:39:44,960
it was a really uh tragic uh

859
00:39:48,230 --> 00:39:46,079
circumstance that

860
00:39:49,589 --> 00:39:48,240
we were never allowed to get to the

861
00:39:52,470 --> 00:39:49,599
bottom of that

862
00:39:53,990 --> 00:39:52,480
but um that anyway that was my first

863
00:39:56,390 --> 00:39:54,000
impression initially

864
00:39:59,430 --> 00:39:56,400
when i heard about this flight and i

865
00:40:02,390 --> 00:39:59,440
heard this pilot described what he said

866
00:40:05,030 --> 00:40:02,400
uh he what he said resembled a cruise

867
00:40:10,550 --> 00:40:05,040
missile that maybe had a near miss

868
00:40:13,190 --> 00:40:10,560
against the airliner the uh the

869
00:40:14,150 --> 00:40:13,200
the facts are when we you know it's over

870
00:40:16,230 --> 00:40:14,160
new mexico

871
00:40:19,349 --> 00:40:16,240
right so for the ufo community it's like

872
00:40:21,670 --> 00:40:19,359
aha okay here we go it's new mexico

873
00:40:22,870 --> 00:40:21,680
um what's on the ground in new mexico we

874
00:40:24,630 --> 00:40:22,880
know about

875
00:40:26,790 --> 00:40:24,640
all of the military installations and

876
00:40:30,069 --> 00:40:26,800
testing of course white sands

877
00:40:33,270 --> 00:40:30,079
um it it then uh

878
00:40:33,990 --> 00:40:33,280
was revealed uh that this was about 400

879
00:40:38,150 --> 00:40:34,000
miles from

880
00:40:38,470 --> 00:40:38,160
white sands and so for me it almost took

881
00:40:41,670 --> 00:40:38,480
that

882
00:40:44,390 --> 00:40:41,680
out of the play immediately did

883
00:40:48,470 --> 00:40:44,400
that come did you think about that that

884
00:40:52,470 --> 00:40:51,270
it didn't really it didn't really

885
00:40:55,829 --> 00:40:52,480
occurred to me

886
00:40:56,790 --> 00:40:55,839
until i started looking deeper into the

887
00:41:00,630 --> 00:40:56,800
reports

888
00:41:02,630 --> 00:41:00,640
more and more when that when i started

889
00:41:06,630 --> 00:41:02,640
really looking into it

890
00:41:10,309 --> 00:41:06,640
i saw the possibility that this could be

891
00:41:13,510 --> 00:41:10,319
some type of cylinder based

892
00:41:16,870 --> 00:41:13,520
ufo that we're looking at here

893
00:41:18,069 --> 00:41:16,880
but again that's just uh that's just a

894
00:41:21,030 --> 00:41:18,079
possibility

895
00:41:21,589 --> 00:41:21,040
so we have to we had to go further into

896
00:41:24,870 --> 00:41:21,599
it

897
00:41:27,190 --> 00:41:24,880
had to also uh

898
00:41:28,630 --> 00:41:27,200
look at the fact that uh you know you i

899
00:41:32,150 --> 00:41:28,640
think you played the recording

900
00:41:34,550 --> 00:41:32,160
i do i have it here yes i have it and uh

901
00:41:35,270 --> 00:41:34,560
one of the things that i would ask

902
00:41:37,910 --> 00:41:35,280
people

903
00:41:39,030 --> 00:41:37,920
and this involves this involves the the

904
00:41:43,349 --> 00:41:39,040
fbi

905
00:41:45,190 --> 00:41:43,359
uh in this uh why did the uh

906
00:41:46,470 --> 00:41:45,200
if you listen you listen to the whole

907
00:41:50,630 --> 00:41:46,480
phrase what the pilot

908
00:41:54,390 --> 00:41:50,640
said why did he say i hate to say this

909
00:41:57,430 --> 00:41:54,400
but this might be a cruise missile

910
00:41:58,550 --> 00:41:57,440
and so my question uh to the fader knots

911
00:42:00,710 --> 00:41:58,560
and to you would be

912
00:42:04,390 --> 00:42:00,720
why did he say that why did he say i

913
00:42:08,470 --> 00:42:07,109
and the answer to that i'm sure i'm sure

914
00:42:10,550 --> 00:42:08,480
your audience knows

915
00:42:12,630 --> 00:42:10,560
is because it's like uh it's like

916
00:42:16,390 --> 00:42:12,640
dropping a bomb at an airport

917
00:42:17,030 --> 00:42:16,400
uh it's you you can't say something like

918
00:42:19,349 --> 00:42:17,040
that without

919
00:42:20,390 --> 00:42:19,359
it having great repercussions and that's

920
00:42:23,910 --> 00:42:20,400
the exact reason

921
00:42:25,349 --> 00:42:23,920
why the uh the fbi gave some kind of

922
00:42:27,670 --> 00:42:25,359
neutral statement on this

923
00:42:28,390 --> 00:42:27,680
but they are investigating it they have

924
00:42:31,670 --> 00:42:28,400
to

925
00:42:32,950 --> 00:42:31,680
because the moment he said cruise

926
00:42:35,829 --> 00:42:32,960
missile

927
00:42:36,710 --> 00:42:35,839
this became a national security matter

928
00:42:39,829 --> 00:42:36,720
so

929
00:42:41,109 --> 00:42:39,839
that means it has to be investigated by

930
00:42:43,430 --> 00:42:41,119
the fbi

931
00:42:45,030 --> 00:42:43,440
and probably by other investigative

932
00:42:48,230 --> 00:42:45,040
organs of the government as well

933
00:42:51,430 --> 00:42:48,240
now uh the the what i

934
00:42:51,910 --> 00:42:51,440
found most revealing okay actually um i

935
00:42:56,710 --> 00:42:51,920
have

936
00:42:58,150 --> 00:42:56,720
just gonna play it just for a reference

937
00:43:00,870 --> 00:42:58,160
of the audience if they

938
00:43:01,349 --> 00:43:00,880
are wondering what we are talking about

939
00:43:03,510 --> 00:43:01,359
uh

940
00:43:05,349 --> 00:43:03,520
they can listen to any targets up here

941
00:43:06,790 --> 00:43:05,359
we just had something go right over the

942
00:43:08,630 --> 00:43:06,800
top of us that

943
00:43:10,550 --> 00:43:08,640
i hate to say this looked like a long

944
00:43:11,990 --> 00:43:10,560
cylindrical object it almost looked like

945
00:43:13,750 --> 00:43:12,000
a cruise missile type of thing

946
00:43:15,349 --> 00:43:13,760
moving really fast that went right over

947
00:43:19,190 --> 00:43:15,359
the top of us

948
00:43:20,950 --> 00:43:19,200
now um it's what he didn't say there

949
00:43:23,270 --> 00:43:20,960
he didn't say he saw an airplane he

950
00:43:26,550 --> 00:43:23,280
didn't say he saw a small

951
00:43:27,190 --> 00:43:26,560
learjet or small private plane he didn't

952
00:43:29,430 --> 00:43:27,200
say that

953
00:43:31,190 --> 00:43:29,440
he didn't describe wings he didn't talk

954
00:43:32,550 --> 00:43:31,200
about noise he didn't talk about a

955
00:43:36,150 --> 00:43:32,560
contrail

956
00:43:39,670 --> 00:43:36,160
uh rocket engines he didn't mention

957
00:43:43,270 --> 00:43:39,680
anything that a pilot should be able to

958
00:43:44,950 --> 00:43:43,280
identify what's up in the sky right

959
00:43:46,550 --> 00:43:44,960
right but right but that can be

960
00:43:48,550 --> 00:43:46,560
accounted for by stress

961
00:43:49,589 --> 00:43:48,560
when you're in a high stress situation

962
00:43:52,550 --> 00:43:49,599
right

963
00:43:54,309 --> 00:43:52,560
you you don't you know you don't talk

964
00:43:56,870 --> 00:43:54,319
you don't blurt out details

965
00:43:58,309 --> 00:43:56,880
you just kind of blurt out overall

966
00:44:01,190 --> 00:43:58,319
descriptions

967
00:44:01,829 --> 00:44:01,200
of stuff that you that you happen to

968
00:44:04,069 --> 00:44:01,839
catch

969
00:44:05,670 --> 00:44:04,079
out of the you know corner of your eye

970
00:44:06,710 --> 00:44:05,680
that's that's pretty usual for high

971
00:44:09,510 --> 00:44:06,720
stress situations

972
00:44:11,190 --> 00:44:09,520
sure and uh you can hear the stress in

973
00:44:14,150 --> 00:44:11,200
his voice because he literally

974
00:44:15,670 --> 00:44:14,160
i hate to say this but it is a large

975
00:44:19,349 --> 00:44:15,680
cylindrical object

976
00:44:22,870 --> 00:44:19,359
now by just by saying that he's now

977
00:44:24,630 --> 00:44:22,880
a tin foil hat wearing ufo nut case

978
00:44:27,109 --> 00:44:24,640
right so he doesn't want to say that

979
00:44:30,470 --> 00:44:27,119
over the radio either does he

980
00:44:33,750 --> 00:44:30,480
no no he definitely uh does not however

981
00:44:35,990 --> 00:44:33,760
we're in this crazy situation now uh in

982
00:44:39,109 --> 00:44:36,000
the modern era since uh

983
00:44:43,510 --> 00:44:39,119
since last year where where

984
00:44:46,870 --> 00:44:43,520
ufos are actually more acceptable to say

985
00:44:49,349 --> 00:44:46,880
than top secret weapons which is

986
00:44:50,550 --> 00:44:49,359
the the one which has now become the

987
00:44:53,430 --> 00:44:50,560
thing that we can't

988
00:44:54,150 --> 00:44:53,440
actually say that we can't actually uh

989
00:44:57,190 --> 00:44:54,160
mention

990
00:44:59,910 --> 00:44:57,200
uh despite all the data that's come back

991
00:45:02,150 --> 00:44:59,920
on the tic tacs uh what people sometimes

992
00:45:05,190 --> 00:45:02,160
call the go fast the gimbal

993
00:45:07,910 --> 00:45:05,200
uh incident uh that occurred in 2004

994
00:45:09,030 --> 00:45:07,920
uh and uh we're not allowed to point out

995
00:45:15,750 --> 00:45:09,040
that these

996
00:45:17,510 --> 00:45:15,760
ufos that were encountered uh

997
00:45:20,069 --> 00:45:17,520
they're they're freaking they're super

998
00:45:22,870 --> 00:45:20,079
weapons they're top secret super weapons

999
00:45:24,230 --> 00:45:22,880
out there on the pacific ocean uh that

1000
00:45:26,950 --> 00:45:24,240
were being tested

1001
00:45:28,150 --> 00:45:26,960
in the bosom of the uh of the nimitz

1002
00:45:30,150 --> 00:45:28,160
carrier group

1003
00:45:32,309 --> 00:45:30,160
uh because they needed some place safe

1004
00:45:36,630 --> 00:45:32,319
to test those weapons so

1005
00:45:38,309 --> 00:45:36,640
are you before we move forward i want to

1006
00:45:41,270 --> 00:45:38,319
stop there for a second

1007
00:45:43,270 --> 00:45:41,280
are you of the opinion that what went on

1008
00:45:45,990 --> 00:45:43,280
with the nimitz and the roosevelt

1009
00:45:47,190 --> 00:45:46,000
was not extraterrestrial and that was

1010
00:45:50,550 --> 00:45:47,200
probably

1011
00:45:51,829 --> 00:45:50,560
a top secret uh black weapons program

1012
00:45:54,710 --> 00:45:51,839
being tested

1013
00:45:56,390 --> 00:45:54,720
oh absolutely that was that was not

1014
00:45:59,270 --> 00:45:56,400
those were not uh

1015
00:46:00,790 --> 00:45:59,280
they were not ufos uh in the sense of

1016
00:46:04,230 --> 00:46:00,800
extraterrestrial

1017
00:46:07,510 --> 00:46:04,240
the tic tacs were absolutely

1018
00:46:10,550 --> 00:46:07,520
top secret top secret uh

1019
00:46:13,190 --> 00:46:10,560
military drones that are in use

1020
00:46:14,470 --> 00:46:13,200
at the u.s navy under a top secret

1021
00:46:17,190 --> 00:46:14,480
program even today

1022
00:46:18,470 --> 00:46:17,200
still and they have extraordinary

1023
00:46:21,430 --> 00:46:18,480
capacities

1024
00:46:22,790 --> 00:46:21,440
uh those those drones i believe they're

1025
00:46:24,870 --> 00:46:22,800
i believe they're also

1026
00:46:26,710 --> 00:46:24,880
they're called uh they're very similar

1027
00:46:29,829 --> 00:46:26,720
to what we call the a24

1028
00:46:30,950 --> 00:46:29,839
the a24s military drones that do not

1029
00:46:34,470 --> 00:46:30,960
require

1030
00:46:36,950 --> 00:46:34,480
very little uh human guidance on them

1031
00:46:37,670 --> 00:46:36,960
and that have capacities that we are

1032
00:46:41,910 --> 00:46:37,680
just

1033
00:46:42,870 --> 00:46:41,920
the types of things that these tic tacs

1034
00:46:45,670 --> 00:46:42,880
can do

1035
00:46:47,030 --> 00:46:45,680
all right so are you then taking this a

1036
00:46:51,430 --> 00:46:47,040
step further

1037
00:46:54,630 --> 00:46:51,440
and that what happened with aa2292

1038
00:46:58,069 --> 00:46:54,640
may have been a weapons platform and not

1039
00:47:00,550 --> 00:46:58,079
necessarily something extraterrestrial

1040
00:47:02,230 --> 00:47:00,560
uh yes that's one of my possible

1041
00:47:05,430 --> 00:47:02,240
investigative conclusions

1042
00:47:09,270 --> 00:47:05,440
uh that this is that this uh this

1043
00:47:12,390 --> 00:47:09,280
weapon uh this uh thing that was

1044
00:47:15,670 --> 00:47:12,400
seen over 2292

1045
00:47:19,109 --> 00:47:15,680
uh airliner was possibly a

1046
00:47:21,750 --> 00:47:19,119
space force asset that was being tested

1047
00:47:22,950 --> 00:47:21,760
uh it could be a space force asset uh

1048
00:47:25,190 --> 00:47:22,960
just like uh

1049
00:47:26,309 --> 00:47:25,200
and also the just like the tic tacs may

1050
00:47:29,349 --> 00:47:26,319
have been as well

1051
00:47:32,630 --> 00:47:29,359
uh however uh if

1052
00:47:33,990 --> 00:47:32,640
if it endangered the airliner by coming

1053
00:47:36,309 --> 00:47:34,000
too close

1054
00:47:38,549 --> 00:47:36,319
uh then that's likely was not then

1055
00:47:41,750 --> 00:47:38,559
likely was not part of space force

1056
00:47:43,750 --> 00:47:41,760
but it was i do believe uh

1057
00:47:45,270 --> 00:47:43,760
and you know i'm giving you my final

1058
00:47:48,150 --> 00:47:45,280
conclusion before i

1059
00:47:50,230 --> 00:47:48,160
before i go into other possibilities but

1060
00:47:53,109 --> 00:47:50,240
i do believe that this

1061
00:47:53,910 --> 00:47:53,119
cylinder that was seen is part of the

1062
00:47:57,829 --> 00:47:53,920
continuing

1063
00:48:01,109 --> 00:47:57,839
uap campaign to uh gin up

1064
00:48:02,710 --> 00:48:01,119
fear of these ufos that

1065
00:48:05,670 --> 00:48:02,720
prove that we are not alone in the

1066
00:48:07,990 --> 00:48:05,680
universe and to lead us towards

1067
00:48:08,710 --> 00:48:08,000
fear to lead us towards being afraid of

1068
00:48:11,270 --> 00:48:08,720
these

1069
00:48:12,470 --> 00:48:11,280
ufos and alien visitors in general

1070
00:48:14,710 --> 00:48:12,480
that's what i believe

1071
00:48:15,910 --> 00:48:14,720
that was one of my main conclusions on

1072
00:48:17,910 --> 00:48:15,920
this i have

1073
00:48:18,950 --> 00:48:17,920
heard just like everybody else over the

1074
00:48:21,910 --> 00:48:18,960
years

1075
00:48:22,870 --> 00:48:21,920
that if you are in a commercial airliner

1076
00:48:26,710 --> 00:48:22,880
and you see

1077
00:48:27,910 --> 00:48:26,720
another plane while you're flying it's

1078
00:48:30,950 --> 00:48:27,920
too close

1079
00:48:33,829 --> 00:48:30,960
you should never ever ever see

1080
00:48:34,630 --> 00:48:33,839
another plane now i've done just like

1081
00:48:36,870 --> 00:48:34,640
you i've done

1082
00:48:38,390 --> 00:48:36,880
hundreds of flights hundreds i have no

1083
00:48:41,349 --> 00:48:38,400
idea how many

1084
00:48:43,190 --> 00:48:41,359
and i have seen maybe one plane while i

1085
00:48:46,309 --> 00:48:43,200
was flying maybe two

1086
00:48:48,870 --> 00:48:46,319
uh in the last you know 30 40 years

1087
00:48:50,390 --> 00:48:48,880
so if you see something it's too close

1088
00:48:54,230 --> 00:48:50,400
and in this case

1089
00:48:57,430 --> 00:48:54,240
it flew directly over uh 2292.

1090
00:48:58,950 --> 00:48:57,440
right and i and i want to say that a

1091
00:49:02,069 --> 00:48:58,960
true investigator

1092
00:49:03,990 --> 00:49:02,079
has to investigate all possibilities and

1093
00:49:05,829 --> 00:49:04,000
of course there's another possibility on

1094
00:49:06,630 --> 00:49:05,839
this on this entire investigation which

1095
00:49:09,190 --> 00:49:06,640
is that

1096
00:49:10,710 --> 00:49:09,200
uh hey it may have been a cruise missile

1097
00:49:13,109 --> 00:49:10,720
that just did a near miss

1098
00:49:14,790 --> 00:49:13,119
right of an airline of a u.s airliner

1099
00:49:17,990 --> 00:49:14,800
that's another possibility

1100
00:49:20,870 --> 00:49:18,000
and now why can't we

1101
00:49:21,270 --> 00:49:20,880
why can't we refer to that why can't we

1102
00:49:23,190 --> 00:49:21,280
uh

1103
00:49:24,710 --> 00:49:23,200
for instance i think it'll be a strong

1104
00:49:27,190 --> 00:49:24,720
clue if you go out

1105
00:49:28,630 --> 00:49:27,200
on some channel and start saying that

1106
00:49:30,069 --> 00:49:28,640
start saying hey it looks like this was

1107
00:49:30,710 --> 00:49:30,079
a cruise missile that just had a near

1108
00:49:33,270 --> 00:49:30,720
miss

1109
00:49:34,470 --> 00:49:33,280
with one of our airliners and now we

1110
00:49:36,230 --> 00:49:34,480
need to trace down

1111
00:49:38,470 --> 00:49:36,240
what country did it come from did it

1112
00:49:41,430 --> 00:49:38,480
come from a submarine did it come from

1113
00:49:43,109 --> 00:49:41,440
another platform in new mexico i mean

1114
00:49:45,190 --> 00:49:43,119
where did it come from

1115
00:49:46,790 --> 00:49:45,200
if you start i have a strong feeling

1116
00:49:48,549 --> 00:49:46,800
that if a person starts

1117
00:49:51,109 --> 00:49:48,559
speculating like that openly they

1118
00:49:53,910 --> 00:49:51,119
they'll be censored they'll be censored

1119
00:49:56,069 --> 00:49:53,920
that's just a feeling i have uh but as i

1120
00:49:59,109 --> 00:49:56,079
look at the coverage around the world

1121
00:49:59,990 --> 00:49:59,119
of this particular case every single

1122
00:50:03,190 --> 00:50:00,000
headliner

1123
00:50:06,470 --> 00:50:03,200
headline uh fails to mention

1124
00:50:08,470 --> 00:50:06,480
the cruise missile quote or possibility

1125
00:50:10,150 --> 00:50:08,480
every single airline around every single

1126
00:50:12,870 --> 00:50:10,160
headline around the world

1127
00:50:14,630 --> 00:50:12,880
as i'm looking at them now say say oh

1128
00:50:17,910 --> 00:50:14,640
american airlines pilot spots

1129
00:50:18,549 --> 00:50:17,920
long cylindrical object uh impossible

1130
00:50:23,190 --> 00:50:18,559
ufo

1131
00:50:24,790 --> 00:50:23,200
that's a strong clue that says

1132
00:50:27,349 --> 00:50:24,800
something's going on here

1133
00:50:28,950 --> 00:50:27,359
they're trying to drive an agenda here

1134
00:50:32,230 --> 00:50:28,960
now

1135
00:50:35,510 --> 00:50:32,240
the bigger story would be

1136
00:50:38,950 --> 00:50:35,520
if it was an actual ufo right

1137
00:50:41,750 --> 00:50:38,960
zeta reticuli visiting us andromeda

1138
00:50:44,790 --> 00:50:41,760
right visiting us

1139
00:50:48,309 --> 00:50:44,800
that's not as a as big a story

1140
00:50:51,109 --> 00:50:48,319
as a cruise missile almost hitting

1141
00:50:52,549 --> 00:50:51,119
a a commercial airliner in the united

1142
00:50:55,750 --> 00:50:52,559
states airspace

1143
00:50:58,230 --> 00:50:55,760
that's a huge story right

1144
00:50:59,030 --> 00:50:58,240
yeah it should be it should be

1145
00:51:02,390 --> 00:50:59,040
absolutely

1146
00:51:05,670 --> 00:51:02,400
now what about uh a rogue

1147
00:51:07,430 --> 00:51:05,680
accidental firing you know somebody

1148
00:51:09,190 --> 00:51:07,440
flipped a switch there's a malfunction

1149
00:51:11,910 --> 00:51:09,200
in the software somehow

1150
00:51:13,030 --> 00:51:11,920
one of these missiles got launched and

1151
00:51:15,829 --> 00:51:13,040
locked on

1152
00:51:17,190 --> 00:51:15,839
to right a commercial airline yes

1153
00:51:20,549 --> 00:51:17,200
exactly

1154
00:51:23,589 --> 00:51:20,559
finding

1155
00:51:26,710 --> 00:51:23,599
why the pilot said i hate to say this

1156
00:51:30,470 --> 00:51:26,720
but that's the reason why because that

1157
00:51:33,910 --> 00:51:30,480
unlocks a lot of very uh

1158
00:51:36,950 --> 00:51:33,920
problems filled with liability liability

1159
00:51:38,069 --> 00:51:36,960
and uh and a lot of fault and finger

1160
00:51:40,069 --> 00:51:38,079
pointing

1161
00:51:41,430 --> 00:51:40,079
in the in the military in our national

1162
00:51:44,150 --> 00:51:41,440
security structure

1163
00:51:44,870 --> 00:51:44,160
and a lot of responsibility for people

1164
00:51:47,510 --> 00:51:44,880
to say

1165
00:51:49,030 --> 00:51:47,520
to actually say what happened here what

1166
00:51:51,430 --> 00:51:49,040
happened here what's going on

1167
00:51:52,390 --> 00:51:51,440
because truthfully at this point i don't

1168
00:51:55,510 --> 00:51:52,400
really trust

1169
00:51:56,390 --> 00:51:55,520
the fbi to get to the bottom of this i

1170
00:51:59,270 --> 00:51:56,400
really don't

1171
00:52:00,790 --> 00:51:59,280
after after what happened uh after what

1172
00:52:03,670 --> 00:52:00,800
happened with flight twa

1173
00:52:03,990 --> 00:52:03,680
800 how we never got answers from that

1174
00:52:08,309 --> 00:52:04,000
how

1175
00:52:09,750 --> 00:52:08,319
vegas mass shooting

1176
00:52:12,470 --> 00:52:09,760
that occurred i think it's a couple of

1177
00:52:15,109 --> 00:52:12,480
years ago now and how we never got

1178
00:52:15,750 --> 00:52:15,119
again never got any answers on that at

1179
00:52:18,950 --> 00:52:15,760
all

1180
00:52:19,510 --> 00:52:18,960
uh and uh you know so you know looking

1181
00:52:21,750 --> 00:52:19,520
at this

1182
00:52:23,430 --> 00:52:21,760
i don't see that they are going to give

1183
00:52:26,309 --> 00:52:23,440
us answers this time either

1184
00:52:27,990 --> 00:52:26,319
no why okay uh a couple of things came

1185
00:52:30,870 --> 00:52:28,000
into play right away which i

1186
00:52:32,069 --> 00:52:30,880
almost didn't expect but there seemed to

1187
00:52:35,030 --> 00:52:32,079
be

1188
00:52:37,349 --> 00:52:35,040
a little bit of transparency in that

1189
00:52:40,549 --> 00:52:37,359
american airlines immediately said

1190
00:52:44,390 --> 00:52:40,559
yes the flight recording

1191
00:52:47,589 --> 00:52:44,400
is authentic but we are going to

1192
00:52:50,069 --> 00:52:47,599
refer this your questions to the fbi

1193
00:52:51,990 --> 00:52:50,079
the fbi and i thought wow that was that

1194
00:52:54,549 --> 00:52:52,000
was pretty rapid and i'm thinking

1195
00:52:56,950 --> 00:52:54,559
why isn't the faa saying anything on

1196
00:52:58,710 --> 00:52:56,960
this why isn't the air force or somebody

1197
00:53:01,990 --> 00:52:58,720
else commenting on this

1198
00:53:03,030 --> 00:53:02,000
but it's immediately over uh into the

1199
00:53:09,750 --> 00:53:03,040
fbi

1200
00:53:12,549 --> 00:53:09,760
yes we are aware there is an

1201
00:53:15,349 --> 00:53:12,559
investigation that we can't comment on

1202
00:53:16,870 --> 00:53:15,359
why would it go directly to the fbi if

1203
00:53:19,990 --> 00:53:16,880
it's a military

1204
00:53:23,190 --> 00:53:20,000
uh possibility no that's

1205
00:53:23,910 --> 00:53:23,200
um that's standard procedure it would

1206
00:53:27,109 --> 00:53:23,920
the fbi

1207
00:53:30,390 --> 00:53:27,119
would have to uh do the investigation

1208
00:53:33,829 --> 00:53:30,400
into some if there's a hostile action

1209
00:53:35,589 --> 00:53:33,839
over u.s soil just to see if there's any

1210
00:53:38,630 --> 00:53:35,599
involvement with

1211
00:53:39,270 --> 00:53:38,640
terrorism of some kind they would do the

1212
00:53:41,270 --> 00:53:39,280
initial

1213
00:53:42,790 --> 00:53:41,280
examination for that now that doesn't

1214
00:53:44,630 --> 00:53:42,800
mean the faa

1215
00:53:46,630 --> 00:53:44,640
has their own investigators they would

1216
00:53:46,950 --> 00:53:46,640
still their own investigation would

1217
00:53:50,150 --> 00:53:46,960
still

1218
00:53:51,510 --> 00:53:50,160
also be working uh we're working on this

1219
00:53:54,630 --> 00:53:51,520
investigation as well

1220
00:53:55,430 --> 00:53:54,640
as well as other um yeah what about the

1221
00:54:00,150 --> 00:53:55,440
air force

1222
00:54:02,470 --> 00:54:00,160
investigations i would think that

1223
00:54:03,829 --> 00:54:02,480
they would be in on this investigation

1224
00:54:04,549 --> 00:54:03,839
too as well they want to get their own

1225
00:54:06,390 --> 00:54:04,559
answers

1226
00:54:08,790 --> 00:54:06,400
and if it came from an air force

1227
00:54:11,829 --> 00:54:08,800
installation and a test facility

1228
00:54:12,790 --> 00:54:11,839
uh down in new mexico how that missile

1229
00:54:15,910 --> 00:54:12,800
got fired

1230
00:54:18,950 --> 00:54:15,920
look into that

1231
00:54:21,990 --> 00:54:18,960
are all of these agencies uh

1232
00:54:24,230 --> 00:54:22,000
are they do they communicate

1233
00:54:26,069 --> 00:54:24,240
yeah they will be communicating and they

1234
00:54:30,309 --> 00:54:26,079
are communicating absolutely

1235
00:54:33,349 --> 00:54:30,319
but the the primary on the investigation

1236
00:54:34,870 --> 00:54:33,359
will be will be the fbi until

1237
00:54:37,030 --> 00:54:34,880
there's a determination of whether

1238
00:54:39,750 --> 00:54:37,040
there's a hostile foreign actor

1239
00:54:40,789 --> 00:54:39,760
or a terrorist group is not involved

1240
00:54:43,349 --> 00:54:40,799
with this

1241
00:54:45,510 --> 00:54:43,359
once they make that determination then

1242
00:54:48,069 --> 00:54:45,520
then the air force can take the lead

1243
00:54:49,430 --> 00:54:48,079
after that or you know some other agency

1244
00:54:52,630 --> 00:54:49,440
can take the lead after that

1245
00:54:56,309 --> 00:54:52,640
now we have we have the date the time

1246
00:54:58,069 --> 00:54:56,319
the location and we've got the recording

1247
00:54:59,430 --> 00:54:58,079
right and we've got the flight aware

1248
00:55:02,150 --> 00:54:59,440
data uh

1249
00:55:04,069 --> 00:55:02,160
we have software data we have everything

1250
00:55:06,870 --> 00:55:04,079
in play here

1251
00:55:08,789 --> 00:55:06,880
do you expect i'm talking about for a

1252
00:55:09,750 --> 00:55:08,799
civilian investigation we can look into

1253
00:55:11,670 --> 00:55:09,760
this ourselves

1254
00:55:13,270 --> 00:55:11,680
these days right we have a lot of

1255
00:55:16,069 --> 00:55:13,280
information that'd be good

1256
00:55:18,069 --> 00:55:16,079
do you think that the pilots uh would

1257
00:55:22,870 --> 00:55:18,079
you expect the pilot to come forward

1258
00:55:25,430 --> 00:55:22,880
and say something uh in public no

1259
00:55:26,630 --> 00:55:25,440
i don't i don't expect that he will in

1260
00:55:29,109 --> 00:55:26,640
public at all

1261
00:55:31,670 --> 00:55:29,119
uh he'll his statements will be taken

1262
00:55:34,950 --> 00:55:31,680
will be taken by the fbi and the faa

1263
00:55:35,990 --> 00:55:34,960
and anybody in the air force air force

1264
00:55:38,150 --> 00:55:36,000
as well

1265
00:55:39,910 --> 00:55:38,160
they will take his statements and he

1266
00:55:43,190 --> 00:55:39,920
will probably

1267
00:55:45,829 --> 00:55:43,200
be non-disclosured after that

1268
00:55:46,870 --> 00:55:45,839
he will probably have to sign special

1269
00:55:49,030 --> 00:55:46,880
special

1270
00:55:50,789 --> 00:55:49,040
non-disclosures so that he doesn't uh

1271
00:55:53,510 --> 00:55:50,799
speak in public about this

1272
00:55:55,030 --> 00:55:53,520
as well now what about what about the

1273
00:55:56,630 --> 00:55:55,040
passengers

1274
00:55:59,190 --> 00:55:56,640
you know you have the pilot you have the

1275
00:56:00,069 --> 00:55:59,200
co-pilot but there's a lot of windows on

1276
00:56:01,990 --> 00:56:00,079
the plane

1277
00:56:03,990 --> 00:56:02,000
right and people looking out all the

1278
00:56:06,309 --> 00:56:04,000
time we haven't heard from

1279
00:56:08,069 --> 00:56:06,319
any passengers do you think that once

1280
00:56:11,990 --> 00:56:08,079
that plane landed

1281
00:56:13,670 --> 00:56:12,000
uh any any witnesses were pulled aside

1282
00:56:15,829 --> 00:56:13,680
i'm speculating here but i find it

1283
00:56:17,109 --> 00:56:15,839
strange that we haven't seen a a cell

1284
00:56:19,670 --> 00:56:17,119
phone video

1285
00:56:22,470 --> 00:56:19,680
right we haven't had a passenger comment

1286
00:56:26,710 --> 00:56:25,270
yeah i don't i think because of the

1287
00:56:30,390 --> 00:56:26,720
physical position

1288
00:56:33,270 --> 00:56:30,400
of windows for a pilot as opposed to

1289
00:56:33,910 --> 00:56:33,280
the ones that exist for the passengers

1290
00:56:37,589 --> 00:56:33,920
they

1291
00:56:40,710 --> 00:56:37,599
may not have seen anything at this point

1292
00:56:43,430 --> 00:56:40,720
but if they did they should have come

1293
00:56:44,950 --> 00:56:43,440
forward at that moment when that flight

1294
00:56:46,950 --> 00:56:44,960
when that flight was over

1295
00:56:48,150 --> 00:56:46,960
uh because i'm pretty sure that the

1296
00:56:51,589 --> 00:56:48,160
pilot probably had

1297
00:56:53,670 --> 00:56:51,599
uh people uh fbi people there uh

1298
00:56:54,710 --> 00:56:53,680
talking to the passengers and talking to

1299
00:56:56,309 --> 00:56:54,720
everyone

1300
00:56:58,230 --> 00:56:56,319
but uh you never know you never know

1301
00:56:58,950 --> 00:56:58,240
there might be a passenger who may have

1302
00:57:02,390 --> 00:56:58,960
some

1303
00:57:05,109 --> 00:57:02,400
has not

1304
00:57:06,069 --> 00:57:05,119
made it uh made it available to the

1305
00:57:07,910 --> 00:57:06,079
investigators

1306
00:57:09,589 --> 00:57:07,920
so far and that would be really

1307
00:57:12,150 --> 00:57:09,599
interesting to find out later on

1308
00:57:13,030 --> 00:57:12,160
as time goes by if this was a cruise

1309
00:57:16,150 --> 00:57:13,040
missile

1310
00:57:18,789 --> 00:57:16,160
is this entire incident

1311
00:57:21,270 --> 00:57:18,799
squashed i mean is it the last we're

1312
00:57:25,109 --> 00:57:21,280
gonna hear of anything official

1313
00:57:28,150 --> 00:57:25,119
i believe so yeah if if it was

1314
00:57:29,270 --> 00:57:28,160
uh something hostile uh something

1315
00:57:31,349 --> 00:57:29,280
hostile or

1316
00:57:32,710 --> 00:57:31,359
even something accidental that had to do

1317
00:57:35,829 --> 00:57:32,720
with military

1318
00:57:38,069 --> 00:57:35,839
uh then yeah we will not everyone will

1319
00:57:41,270 --> 00:57:38,079
be non-disclosure to the hilt

1320
00:57:43,589 --> 00:57:41,280
on this passengers and pilot and we will

1321
00:57:45,109 --> 00:57:43,599
not hear another word about this

1322
00:57:47,030 --> 00:57:45,119
and that's what i'm concerned about

1323
00:57:50,150 --> 00:57:47,040
jimmy and that's why i

1324
00:57:53,430 --> 00:57:50,160
am uh i am launching on your show

1325
00:57:56,470 --> 00:57:53,440
the uh the request and desire for

1326
00:57:58,309 --> 00:57:56,480
a independent group of investigators

1327
00:58:00,630 --> 00:57:58,319
in this country to handle things like

1328
00:58:01,910 --> 00:58:00,640
this because that's what we need

1329
00:58:03,910 --> 00:58:01,920
that's what we need we need people that

1330
00:58:07,349 --> 00:58:03,920
are not connected to the government

1331
00:58:09,829 --> 00:58:07,359
and people who are not uh

1332
00:58:10,549 --> 00:58:09,839
restricted by the government people who

1333
00:58:13,030 --> 00:58:10,559
do not

1334
00:58:14,230 --> 00:58:13,040
have to uh do a a six-month

1335
00:58:17,910 --> 00:58:14,240
investigation

1336
00:58:19,910 --> 00:58:17,920
on flight twa 800 and then uh

1337
00:58:22,390 --> 00:58:19,920
and to find out what really brought that

1338
00:58:22,950 --> 00:58:22,400
plane down and then be told oh guess

1339
00:58:24,630 --> 00:58:22,960
what

1340
00:58:26,390 --> 00:58:24,640
you can't investigate this any further

1341
00:58:28,230 --> 00:58:26,400
off drop everything you've got

1342
00:58:30,150 --> 00:58:28,240
burn burn your reports and forget about

1343
00:58:32,069 --> 00:58:30,160
it uh because we're coming up with a

1344
00:58:34,829 --> 00:58:32,079
different uh conclusion on this

1345
00:58:35,990 --> 00:58:34,839
we need private independent body of

1346
00:58:38,470 --> 00:58:36,000
investigators

1347
00:58:40,069 --> 00:58:38,480
we absolutely do and i want to i want to

1348
00:58:42,390 --> 00:58:40,079
bring the news to your uh

1349
00:58:43,349 --> 00:58:42,400
to your audience that we actually in

1350
00:58:45,910 --> 00:58:43,359
this country

1351
00:58:46,630 --> 00:58:45,920
we actually did have that for a period

1352
00:58:49,589 --> 00:58:46,640
of time

1353
00:58:50,630 --> 00:58:49,599
about 50 years back in the back in the

1354
00:58:54,150 --> 00:58:50,640
18th century

1355
00:58:57,109 --> 00:58:54,160
1800s we had in this country

1356
00:58:58,789 --> 00:58:57,119
uh something called the pinkerton group

1357
00:59:02,390 --> 00:58:58,799
we had the pinkerton group

1358
00:59:04,789 --> 00:59:02,400
from the late from the 1860s

1359
00:59:06,230 --> 00:59:04,799
around the end of the civil war uh right

1360
00:59:08,710 --> 00:59:06,240
up until 1908

1361
00:59:09,589 --> 00:59:08,720
we had something called the pinkertons

1362
00:59:12,230 --> 00:59:09,599
they were

1363
00:59:13,109 --> 00:59:12,240
a giant they started out as a detective

1364
00:59:16,150 --> 00:59:13,119
agency

1365
00:59:19,030 --> 00:59:16,160
and they handled all federal

1366
00:59:20,230 --> 00:59:19,040
enforcement of law in this country right

1367
00:59:23,670 --> 00:59:20,240
up until 18

1368
00:59:25,910 --> 00:59:23,680
1908 1900 around there uh and

1369
00:59:26,789 --> 00:59:25,920
they did a great job and they were

1370
00:59:29,030 --> 00:59:26,799
independent

1371
00:59:30,390 --> 00:59:29,040
the problem was they were um eventually

1372
00:59:33,510 --> 00:59:30,400
they were taken over

1373
00:59:33,990 --> 00:59:33,520
by the robber barons jp morgan and those

1374
00:59:36,630 --> 00:59:34,000
guys

1375
00:59:38,390 --> 00:59:36,640
and uh in uh in the about the turn of

1376
00:59:41,270 --> 00:59:38,400
the century in 1900

1377
00:59:41,990 --> 00:59:41,280
uh the pinkertons who had been enforcing

1378
00:59:45,510 --> 00:59:42,000
federal law

1379
00:59:48,390 --> 00:59:45,520
all over the country uh they

1380
00:59:49,910 --> 00:59:48,400
went with jp morgan's people and uh

1381
00:59:50,630 --> 00:59:49,920
there was a giant strike in new york

1382
00:59:52,950 --> 00:59:50,640
city

1383
00:59:54,950 --> 00:59:52,960
and they killed a bunch of people there

1384
00:59:57,589 --> 00:59:54,960
in new york city over a strike

1385
00:59:57,990 --> 00:59:57,599
a massive strike that was going on and

1386
01:00:02,309 --> 00:59:58,000
so

1387
01:00:03,990 --> 01:00:02,319
after that the pinkertons were disbanded

1388
01:00:05,510 --> 01:00:04,000
and they were um they fell into

1389
01:00:08,150 --> 01:00:05,520
disrepute um

1390
01:00:09,109 --> 01:00:08,160
and so after that in 1908 a few years

1391
01:00:12,309 --> 01:00:09,119
later

1392
01:00:14,470 --> 01:00:12,319
uh they started the fbi

1393
01:00:15,750 --> 01:00:14,480
didn't the pinkerton's we've got to take

1394
01:00:17,750 --> 01:00:15,760
a break right here

1395
01:00:19,910 --> 01:00:17,760
didn't what was left didn't they become

1396
01:00:21,990 --> 01:00:19,920
the secret service

1397
01:00:23,829 --> 01:00:22,000
uh part of them probably did yeah

1398
01:00:26,470 --> 01:00:23,839
probably because they were specialized

1399
01:00:27,510 --> 01:00:26,480
yeah don't quote me on that just save

1400
01:00:30,630 --> 01:00:27,520
your email

1401
01:00:33,270 --> 01:00:30,640
right now about how wrong i am

1402
01:00:34,789 --> 01:00:33,280
um now i find uh i've got to take a

1403
01:00:39,190 --> 01:00:34,799
break in 15 seconds

1404
01:00:41,270 --> 01:00:39,200
i find the timing of aa2292

1405
01:00:42,309 --> 01:00:41,280
in this climate that we find ourselves

1406
01:00:45,030 --> 01:00:42,319
in today

1407
01:00:46,630 --> 01:00:45,040
find the timing of this and the type of

1408
01:00:49,270 --> 01:00:46,640
event that it was

1409
01:00:51,349 --> 01:00:49,280
suspect i want to talk about this after

1410
01:00:53,030 --> 01:00:51,359
the break do you find the timing of this

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a little strange

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absolutely it sounds like an elongated

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tic tac that's what it sounds like to me

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let's take our break right here our

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guest tonight the one and only the x-man

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john de souza i am your host jimmy

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want to remind everybody what's going on

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intelligence with author and researcher

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welcome back fade to black i am your

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01:06:43,670 --> 01:06:39,119
host jimmy church tonight john de souza

1556
01:06:47,349 --> 01:06:43,680
is here talking about aa2292

1557
01:06:49,029 --> 01:06:47,359
and kind of moving on a little bit i'm

1558
01:06:51,750 --> 01:06:49,039
talking about the timing of it is

1559
01:06:52,150 --> 01:06:51,760
a little suspect to me before we get

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01:06:56,230 --> 01:06:52,160
there

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01:06:57,829 --> 01:06:56,240
uh john's uh uh contribution to the film

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a thousand pieces

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is is worth the price of admission john

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you let it all hang out in that film man

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and uh

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we had roger richards um on a couple of

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01:07:11,589 --> 01:07:08,000
weeks ago

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01:07:14,230 --> 01:07:11,599
uh uh talking about the film and it is

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01:07:15,190 --> 01:07:14,240
it's uh it's extraordinary and you did

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01:07:20,870 --> 01:07:15,200
not hold back

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01:07:22,630 --> 01:07:20,880
now uh i wanted to ask you not only

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01:07:23,510 --> 01:07:22,640
about that film and what we're talking

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01:07:26,950 --> 01:07:23,520
about now

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01:07:30,150 --> 01:07:26,960
does um does an fbi agent

1575
01:07:32,230 --> 01:07:30,160
ever retire i mean

1576
01:07:33,270 --> 01:07:32,240
you know what that's what everybody

1577
01:07:37,029 --> 01:07:33,280
always mentions

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01:07:40,309 --> 01:07:37,039
that you're still you're still connected

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right or are you yeah i mean

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yeah we do retire and we it's not like

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the cia or the mafia

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01:07:51,349 --> 01:07:48,000
uh it's it's we do retire we do leave uh

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the only i mean the only real i mean

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and then you always keep your

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connections uh at the age at the

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bureau with your friends your

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individuals that

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that you are aware of that you know and

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who know you but

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um but and they also have to approve

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uh they have to give some sort of

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approval on the books that we write

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like like when i wrote the extra

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dimensionals

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i had to send a copy to them to a

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special division

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that they have and i'll have to do that

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for the rest of my life

1599
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with any books i write and then they

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have to say

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well okay you're not revealing uh you

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know you're not revealing uh

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01:08:34,870 --> 01:08:32,640
obama's hat size uh but so

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01:08:35,990 --> 01:08:34,880
uh i guess we can we can approve this

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and they do

1606
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agents do retire they do leave the

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organization

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01:08:46,789 --> 01:08:44,640
uh it's not like the cia or the mafia

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basically now uh one thing that you

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didn't retire

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is your look you look fed

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right you just look fat when you go when

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you go

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restaurant

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you're out in public um

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do do you get the look because you look

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you look fed right you look you look

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like

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right you can't escape that dna can you

1620
01:09:20,309 --> 01:09:18,880
no no yeah usually all i get is uh

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people freaking out because why am i

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01:09:23,430 --> 01:09:21,520
staring at them

1623
01:09:24,789 --> 01:09:23,440
and uh with a strange look and i just

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01:09:26,390 --> 01:09:24,799
want to know what's happening with that

1625
01:09:29,510 --> 01:09:26,400
guy what's wrong with him

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01:09:30,229 --> 01:09:29,520
and uh and then i just go back to eating

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my food

1628
01:09:34,229 --> 01:09:32,080
and then things are pretty much okay i

1629
01:09:36,950 --> 01:09:34,239
think yeah but you do look fed you do

1630
01:09:39,910 --> 01:09:36,960
look fat if we were playing spot the fed

1631
01:09:41,510 --> 01:09:39,920
in a crowd you would be picked first

1632
01:09:42,309 --> 01:09:41,520
yeah but i'd pick you for the undercover

1633
01:09:44,709 --> 01:09:42,319
agent yeah

1634
01:09:46,630 --> 01:09:44,719
that's probably true too as well you

1635
01:09:46,950 --> 01:09:46,640
blew my cover you're not supposed to do

1636
01:09:49,110 --> 01:09:46,960
that

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01:09:50,070 --> 01:09:49,120
i thought we had a mutual thing between

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us

1639
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uh not to not to blow cover you know the

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best fbi movie

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my blue heaven oh that was great my blue

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heavens absolutely

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rick rick moranis and uh

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steve martin uh best fbi movie ever now

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01:10:14,310 --> 01:10:12,000
okay i want to um

1646
01:10:15,189 --> 01:10:14,320
i want to talk about the timing of this

1647
01:10:18,950 --> 01:10:15,199
because it

1648
01:10:21,990 --> 01:10:18,960
seems to me to just fit

1649
01:10:22,870 --> 01:10:22,000
an agenda with everything else that is

1650
01:10:26,229 --> 01:10:22,880
going on

1651
01:10:29,110 --> 01:10:26,239
this wasn't a flying saucer it wasn't

1652
01:10:30,550 --> 01:10:29,120
you know a plasma ship this wasn't

1653
01:10:33,510 --> 01:10:30,560
described any

1654
01:10:35,510 --> 01:10:33,520
no this was a threat to a commercial

1655
01:10:36,390 --> 01:10:35,520
airliner in american airspace with a

1656
01:10:38,709 --> 01:10:36,400
very strange

1657
01:10:40,229 --> 01:10:38,719
description tied to it in the middle of

1658
01:10:43,189 --> 01:10:40,239
the uap task force

1659
01:10:44,390 --> 01:10:43,199
special report that has got fear all

1660
01:10:47,270 --> 01:10:44,400
over it

1661
01:10:49,270 --> 01:10:47,280
um right am i wrong in jumping to these

1662
01:10:52,709 --> 01:10:49,280
kind of conclusions

1663
01:10:56,390 --> 01:10:52,719
no it's uh contemporaneousness is often

1664
01:10:59,030 --> 01:10:56,400
a very strong clue absolutely and

1665
01:11:00,550 --> 01:10:59,040
this is contemporaneous with a lot of

1666
01:11:03,830 --> 01:11:00,560
things that are going on

1667
01:11:06,950 --> 01:11:03,840
with the uap campaign uh to uh

1668
01:11:07,750 --> 01:11:06,960
to make people uh fear and to make

1669
01:11:10,950 --> 01:11:07,760
people

1670
01:11:14,070 --> 01:11:10,960
uh believe that uh all all

1671
01:11:17,430 --> 01:11:14,080
alien vehicles are unknown alien

1672
01:11:19,110 --> 01:11:17,440
threats threats as well so

1673
01:11:21,030 --> 01:11:19,120
that really begs the question so does

1674
01:11:22,470 --> 01:11:21,040
that mean because this thing for another

1675
01:11:24,390 --> 01:11:22,480
thing this thing was kind of like an

1676
01:11:26,870 --> 01:11:24,400
elongated tic tac

1677
01:11:29,030 --> 01:11:26,880
it just seemed that way it seemed that

1678
01:11:31,030 --> 01:11:29,040
way and uh it just

1679
01:11:32,310 --> 01:11:31,040
kind of has seems to have that flavor

1680
01:11:35,350 --> 01:11:32,320
with the speed

1681
01:11:37,110 --> 01:11:35,360
and the uh actual targeting of the uh

1682
01:11:38,950 --> 01:11:37,120
of the aircraft so that the aircraft

1683
01:11:43,350 --> 01:11:38,960
would see it

1684
01:11:44,630 --> 01:11:43,360
just seems to have some of the same

1685
01:11:47,430 --> 01:11:44,640
hallmarks

1686
01:11:49,189 --> 01:11:47,440
as the tic-tac incident so you have to

1687
01:11:50,390 --> 01:11:49,199
look at that and then you have to look

1688
01:11:52,550 --> 01:11:50,400
at

1689
01:11:54,870 --> 01:11:52,560
if they're really trying to gin up fear

1690
01:11:56,870 --> 01:11:54,880
then that really

1691
01:11:58,630 --> 01:11:56,880
leads to the inevitably to the question

1692
01:11:59,750 --> 01:11:58,640
well then does that mean that the next

1693
01:12:03,350 --> 01:11:59,760
time this happens

1694
01:12:04,550 --> 01:12:03,360
the the uh vehicle the cylinder whatever

1695
01:12:07,110 --> 01:12:04,560
it is is going to

1696
01:12:07,590 --> 01:12:07,120
actually destroy the airliner is that

1697
01:12:10,149 --> 01:12:07,600
what's

1698
01:12:11,189 --> 01:12:10,159
that the next step logical step in this

1699
01:12:14,950 --> 01:12:11,199
process

1700
01:12:18,149 --> 01:12:14,960
and that's really uh that's pretty scary

1701
01:12:19,590 --> 01:12:18,159
if you really think about it and

1702
01:12:21,910 --> 01:12:19,600
that's something that's difficult to

1703
01:12:24,070 --> 01:12:21,920
contemplate but we do have to

1704
01:12:28,229 --> 01:12:24,080
contemplate we do have to look at that

1705
01:12:31,350 --> 01:12:28,239
as a possibility and so we have to

1706
01:12:34,709 --> 01:12:31,360
really look at this group that is

1707
01:12:38,149 --> 01:12:34,719
pushing forward this uap uat

1708
01:12:41,990 --> 01:12:38,159
also t like tom this uat agenda

1709
01:12:43,669 --> 01:12:42,000
as well because they're involving some

1710
01:12:46,149 --> 01:12:43,679
very powerful elements from the

1711
01:12:49,110 --> 01:12:46,159
government and the pentagon as well

1712
01:12:50,310 --> 01:12:49,120
so we have to really take a good strong

1713
01:12:55,110 --> 01:12:50,320
look at this as well

1714
01:12:57,830 --> 01:12:55,120
uh uat being unidentified aerial threat

1715
01:12:58,550 --> 01:12:57,840
right right yeah they they use the lingo

1716
01:13:00,870 --> 01:12:58,560
uap

1717
01:13:01,750 --> 01:13:00,880
for unknown aerial phenomena and then

1718
01:13:03,990 --> 01:13:01,760
uat

1719
01:13:05,830 --> 01:13:04,000
unknown aerial threat they ease you into

1720
01:13:08,870 --> 01:13:05,840
that language

1721
01:13:09,990 --> 01:13:08,880
slowly when they whenever they talk do

1722
01:13:13,990 --> 01:13:10,000
you think that

1723
01:13:17,669 --> 01:13:14,000
aa 2292 is going to find its way

1724
01:13:19,510 --> 01:13:17,679
into the uap task force report that is

1725
01:13:21,590 --> 01:13:19,520
going to be submitted to the senate

1726
01:13:24,310 --> 01:13:21,600
intelligence committee

1727
01:13:25,990 --> 01:13:24,320
yeah actually i do yeah that's my final

1728
01:13:26,790 --> 01:13:26,000
investigative conclusion on this whole

1729
01:13:29,270 --> 01:13:26,800
thing

1730
01:13:30,390 --> 01:13:29,280
that uh really this is part of the

1731
01:13:32,630 --> 01:13:30,400
continuing uap

1732
01:13:33,990 --> 01:13:32,640
campaign and that this is this is going

1733
01:13:37,030 --> 01:13:34,000
to get lumped in there

1734
01:13:39,590 --> 01:13:37,040
with everything else uh concerning

1735
01:13:41,030 --> 01:13:39,600
this uh this march this march that we're

1736
01:13:44,390 --> 01:13:41,040
being forced on

1737
01:13:47,830 --> 01:13:44,400
towards uh fake alien invasion

1738
01:13:51,430 --> 01:13:47,840
no wait i can say it i could almost

1739
01:13:52,310 --> 01:13:51,440
hear a senator saying this is what we're

1740
01:13:55,350 --> 01:13:52,320
talking about

1741
01:13:58,550 --> 01:13:55,360
a threat in our airspace

1742
01:13:59,990 --> 01:13:58,560
and now it was the military and now it's

1743
01:14:03,030 --> 01:14:00,000
civilian commercial

1744
01:14:03,590 --> 01:14:03,040
airliners uh there is something going on

1745
01:14:06,870 --> 01:14:03,600
here

1746
01:14:10,790 --> 01:14:06,880
and the fear and threat uh

1747
01:14:13,030 --> 01:14:10,800
spin is gonna be put on it oh absolutely

1748
01:14:14,310 --> 01:14:13,040
and then you know what's gonna happen

1749
01:14:16,709 --> 01:14:14,320
next month you know

1750
01:14:19,669 --> 01:14:16,719
are we gonna have this uh are we gonna

1751
01:14:23,030 --> 01:14:19,679
have these uh vehicles now next time do

1752
01:14:24,630 --> 01:14:23,040
do a donuts around an airliner and do

1753
01:14:26,709 --> 01:14:24,640
over and unders and do

1754
01:14:27,990 --> 01:14:26,719
uh backwards movement and you know all

1755
01:14:30,950 --> 01:14:28,000
these incredible maneuvers

1756
01:14:32,709 --> 01:14:30,960
that we that we haven't seen since 1952

1757
01:14:35,669 --> 01:14:32,719
over washington dc

1758
01:14:35,990 --> 01:14:35,679
when we had the uh the invasion of ufos

1759
01:14:39,510 --> 01:14:36,000
over

1760
01:14:41,669 --> 01:14:39,520
dc

1761
01:14:42,630 --> 01:14:41,679
uh you know that might be the next thing

1762
01:14:45,990 --> 01:14:42,640
that we're going to see

1763
01:14:50,550 --> 01:14:46,000
as well now um uh

1764
01:14:52,870 --> 01:14:50,560
you mentioned uh an agenda by a group

1765
01:14:54,950 --> 01:14:52,880
let's let's go back to that uh what what

1766
01:14:56,870 --> 01:14:54,960
do you think the agenda is and who is

1767
01:15:03,350 --> 01:14:56,880
the group

1768
01:15:07,110 --> 01:15:03,360
well it started with this uh this

1769
01:15:09,510 --> 01:15:07,120
ttsa group that uh thankfully is kind of

1770
01:15:12,310 --> 01:15:09,520
dissipated off the scene now

1771
01:15:12,790 --> 01:15:12,320
but they're at the center of this it's

1772
01:15:16,229 --> 01:15:12,800
also

1773
01:15:18,630 --> 01:15:16,239
the aerospace the aerospace

1774
01:15:21,669 --> 01:15:18,640
genius what's his name robert jordan i

1775
01:15:24,070 --> 01:15:21,679
forget i forget his name

1776
01:15:24,790 --> 01:15:24,080
the guy who has his own aerospace and

1777
01:15:28,070 --> 01:15:24,800
he's really

1778
01:15:30,630 --> 01:15:28,080
robert roberts

1779
01:15:32,470 --> 01:15:30,640
the bigelow group which actually cuts

1780
01:15:35,590 --> 01:15:32,480
across many industries

1781
01:15:37,110 --> 01:15:35,600
and many uh different areas it includes

1782
01:15:40,470 --> 01:15:37,120
bigelow it includes

1783
01:15:41,669 --> 01:15:40,480
the cia it includes uh pentagon

1784
01:15:45,990 --> 01:15:41,679
officials

1785
01:15:48,149 --> 01:15:46,000
them all up there on the stage

1786
01:15:50,870 --> 01:15:48,159
i saw all these cia officials up on the

1787
01:15:53,910 --> 01:15:50,880
stage at ttsa

1788
01:15:55,510 --> 01:15:53,920
when all of this started and of course

1789
01:15:57,189 --> 01:15:55,520
those cia officials were all

1790
01:15:58,950 --> 01:15:57,199
saying oh no we were tired we're not

1791
01:16:01,110 --> 01:15:58,960
part of the cia anymore

1792
01:16:02,070 --> 01:16:01,120
and oh we're we're out of the pentagon

1793
01:16:04,390 --> 01:16:02,080
we retired

1794
01:16:05,910 --> 01:16:04,400
yesterday the day before they went on

1795
01:16:08,630 --> 01:16:05,920
stage

1796
01:16:10,149 --> 01:16:08,640
so yeah that's a part of it we also have

1797
01:16:14,709 --> 01:16:10,159
john podesta

1798
01:16:16,310 --> 01:16:14,719
group as well

1799
01:16:18,229 --> 01:16:16,320
and if you want to see what the real

1800
01:16:20,470 --> 01:16:18,239
genesis of this group was you can look

1801
01:16:23,990 --> 01:16:20,480
at the wikileaks and the

1802
01:16:26,390 --> 01:16:24,000
emails between podesta and de long

1803
01:16:28,709 --> 01:16:26,400
that's in wikileaks that stuff is

1804
01:16:31,590 --> 01:16:28,719
amazing it's really eye-opening

1805
01:16:32,149 --> 01:16:31,600
and so this is a this is a huge group

1806
01:16:35,430 --> 01:16:32,159
where

1807
01:16:38,950 --> 01:16:35,440
the um the uh mainstream media

1808
01:16:40,550 --> 01:16:38,960
tucker carlson and cnn and

1809
01:16:42,470 --> 01:16:40,560
many other parts of the mainstream media

1810
01:16:43,030 --> 01:16:42,480
have been ordered to cooperate with this

1811
01:16:45,990 --> 01:16:43,040
group

1812
01:16:47,430 --> 01:16:46,000
to recognize for the first time in all

1813
01:16:50,709 --> 01:16:47,440
of our lives that

1814
01:16:51,510 --> 01:16:50,719
that ufos may be real and you've got

1815
01:16:53,430 --> 01:16:51,520
these uh

1816
01:16:55,750 --> 01:16:53,440
these people running around it's also

1817
01:16:58,550 --> 01:16:55,760
includes senator harry reid

1818
01:16:59,110 --> 01:16:58,560
it includes uh now it's including this

1819
01:17:02,310 --> 01:16:59,120
um

1820
01:17:04,310 --> 01:17:02,320
rubio apparently senator rubio as well

1821
01:17:06,950 --> 01:17:04,320
so you've got a lot of these moving

1822
01:17:07,910 --> 01:17:06,960
parts in this giant giant group that

1823
01:17:10,149 --> 01:17:07,920
cuts across

1824
01:17:11,510 --> 01:17:10,159
government the intelligence agencies

1825
01:17:13,270 --> 01:17:11,520
mainstream media

1826
01:17:14,709 --> 01:17:13,280
they're all working together in this

1827
01:17:16,149 --> 01:17:14,719
group and this

1828
01:17:18,070 --> 01:17:16,159
and this group is getting larger and

1829
01:17:19,590 --> 01:17:18,080
larger all the time and they're all

1830
01:17:21,990 --> 01:17:19,600
driving us on this uh

1831
01:17:23,350 --> 01:17:22,000
on these tic tac incidents now it's

1832
01:17:24,950 --> 01:17:23,360
going to be this one too

1833
01:17:27,669 --> 01:17:24,960
and who knows what the next one's going

1834
01:17:31,750 --> 01:17:27,679
to be tomorrow now

1835
01:17:35,110 --> 01:17:31,760
and so the question would be ultimately

1836
01:17:37,430 --> 01:17:35,120
why you know why

1837
01:17:38,630 --> 01:17:37,440
is this actually going on is it for

1838
01:17:42,470 --> 01:17:38,640
military funding

1839
01:17:45,990 --> 01:17:42,480
is it for black projects is it for

1840
01:17:48,310 --> 01:17:46,000
these uh different uh

1841
01:17:49,350 --> 01:17:48,320
uh constituents and their corporations

1842
01:17:53,669 --> 01:17:49,360
across the united

1843
01:17:56,830 --> 01:17:53,679
states and funding into their programs

1844
01:17:57,990 --> 01:17:56,840
is that ultimately the reason for all of

1845
01:18:01,990 --> 01:17:58,000
this

1846
01:18:03,110 --> 01:18:02,000
uh those probably are side benefits like

1847
01:18:03,669 --> 01:18:03,120
some of the things that you mentioned

1848
01:18:05,350 --> 01:18:03,679
there

1849
01:18:07,990 --> 01:18:05,360
are probably additional benefits that

1850
01:18:10,630 --> 01:18:08,000
they get but ultimately

1851
01:18:11,430 --> 01:18:10,640
the great goal is to take control of

1852
01:18:12,870 --> 01:18:11,440
ufology

1853
01:18:14,470 --> 01:18:12,880
number one right they want to take

1854
01:18:17,750 --> 01:18:14,480
control of ufology

1855
01:18:21,189 --> 01:18:17,760
uh using uh using a lot of uh people

1856
01:18:24,830 --> 01:18:21,199
and things to do that in media

1857
01:18:27,510 --> 01:18:24,840
and then they want to increase

1858
01:18:28,950 --> 01:18:27,520
tremendous fear in the area of

1859
01:18:29,830 --> 01:18:28,960
morphology they want to increase the

1860
01:18:31,430 --> 01:18:29,840
fear

1861
01:18:33,510 --> 01:18:31,440
because they're going to keep rolling

1862
01:18:35,910 --> 01:18:33,520
these incidences

1863
01:18:37,910 --> 01:18:35,920
forward with these uh with these tic

1864
01:18:40,390 --> 01:18:37,920
tacs did these cylinders

1865
01:18:41,669 --> 01:18:40,400
with who knows what's next on this

1866
01:18:43,189 --> 01:18:41,679
horizon as well

1867
01:18:45,350 --> 01:18:43,199
and they're going to keep driving up the

1868
01:18:46,870 --> 01:18:45,360
fear factor you know this time yeah we

1869
01:18:49,990 --> 01:18:46,880
just buzzed the narrow liner

1870
01:18:51,830 --> 01:18:50,000
next time we take down a plane uh and

1871
01:18:53,590 --> 01:18:51,840
uh you know it's gonna be it's gonna be

1872
01:18:56,630 --> 01:18:53,600
something and

1873
01:18:57,910 --> 01:18:56,640
we've had um a really great description

1874
01:19:00,790 --> 01:18:57,920
of this situation

1875
01:19:01,669 --> 01:19:00,800
has been done by uh dr greer dr greer

1876
01:19:04,790 --> 01:19:01,679
who really

1877
01:19:07,430 --> 01:19:04,800
laid this out really well for us uh

1878
01:19:08,149 --> 01:19:07,440
taking it showing how this campaign has

1879
01:19:10,630 --> 01:19:08,159
been moving

1880
01:19:11,430 --> 01:19:10,640
forward and how it's gathering steam

1881
01:19:13,669 --> 01:19:11,440
it's gathering

1882
01:19:15,350 --> 01:19:13,679
as we get to the end of this six-month

1883
01:19:18,149 --> 01:19:15,360
period for disclosure

1884
01:19:18,870 --> 01:19:18,159
and in the countdown to disclosure and

1885
01:19:20,470 --> 01:19:18,880
so

1886
01:19:22,310 --> 01:19:20,480
where this is gathering steam it's

1887
01:19:22,870 --> 01:19:22,320
getting worse and worse and the ultimate

1888
01:19:24,550 --> 01:19:22,880
goal

1889
01:19:27,430 --> 01:19:24,560
at the end of all this is that the deep

1890
01:19:30,470 --> 01:19:27,440
state the deep state

1891
01:19:33,510 --> 01:19:30,480
wants to be able to have the option

1892
01:19:36,550 --> 01:19:33,520
of launching this

1893
01:19:39,750 --> 01:19:36,560
fake alien invasion

1894
01:19:43,189 --> 01:19:39,760
of the earth basically because they want

1895
01:19:47,030 --> 01:19:43,199
everyone on earth to be unified behind

1896
01:19:49,910 --> 01:19:47,040
them behind them and if you want to see

1897
01:19:51,750 --> 01:19:49,920
exactly and what's funny is the deep

1898
01:19:53,990 --> 01:19:51,760
state has already put out a blueprint

1899
01:19:56,630 --> 01:19:54,000
of exactly how this is going to work uh

1900
01:19:58,229 --> 01:19:56,640
it's a it's actually a television show

1901
01:20:00,390 --> 01:19:58,239
because we know hollywood works very

1902
01:20:01,590 --> 01:20:00,400
closely with the uh with the deep state

1903
01:20:03,750 --> 01:20:01,600
and the cabal

1904
01:20:05,030 --> 01:20:03,760
there's a show on television i've

1905
01:20:05,669 --> 01:20:05,040
probably mentioned this to you before

1906
01:20:08,870 --> 01:20:05,679
jimmy

1907
01:20:11,430 --> 01:20:08,880
uh there's a show it was on for three

1908
01:20:14,470 --> 01:20:11,440
seasons that's the minimum requirement

1909
01:20:15,189 --> 01:20:14,480
it's called colony it's on netflix right

1910
01:20:17,189 --> 01:20:15,199
now

1911
01:20:19,189 --> 01:20:17,199
anybody can go see it and if you want to

1912
01:20:19,990 --> 01:20:19,199
see exactly how the blueprint is going

1913
01:20:21,669 --> 01:20:20,000
to go

1914
01:20:23,430 --> 01:20:21,679
for fake alien invasion because the

1915
01:20:25,669 --> 01:20:23,440
problem with fake alien invasion is

1916
01:20:26,629 --> 01:20:25,679
the aliens won't be real but the

1917
01:20:29,590 --> 01:20:26,639
destruction

1918
01:20:30,790 --> 01:20:29,600
that they cause with alien technology

1919
01:20:33,510 --> 01:20:30,800
will be real

1920
01:20:35,030 --> 01:20:33,520
that's going to be real and so that's

1921
01:20:37,110 --> 01:20:35,040
why this is so

1922
01:20:38,149 --> 01:20:37,120
such a difficult thing to try to warn

1923
01:20:40,950 --> 01:20:38,159
people about

1924
01:20:41,830 --> 01:20:40,960
the gravity of it and that's what people

1925
01:20:43,830 --> 01:20:41,840
have to really see

1926
01:20:46,149 --> 01:20:43,840
but if you see that show colony i love

1927
01:20:49,270 --> 01:20:46,159
it i love colony i love colony

1928
01:20:52,550 --> 01:20:49,280
and steven spielberg's dark skies too

1929
01:20:54,709 --> 01:20:52,560
is uh is pretty amazing um now

1930
01:20:56,470 --> 01:20:54,719
and we haven't you know what do you one

1931
01:20:57,270 --> 01:20:56,480
of the best points that you just brought

1932
01:21:01,990 --> 01:20:57,280
up

1933
01:21:04,870 --> 01:21:02,000
is throughout 2021 the alien e.t

1934
01:21:06,629 --> 01:21:04,880
invasion scripted dramas not

1935
01:21:07,830 --> 01:21:06,639
documentaries on history channel i'm not

1936
01:21:10,310 --> 01:21:07,840
talking about that

1937
01:21:11,669 --> 01:21:10,320
travel channel talking about scripted

1938
01:21:14,950 --> 01:21:11,679
dramas

1939
01:21:15,830 --> 01:21:14,960
on network television uh uh centered

1940
01:21:18,790 --> 01:21:15,840
around e.t

1941
01:21:19,590 --> 01:21:18,800
and et invasion uh we're about to get a

1942
01:21:23,350 --> 01:21:19,600
big dose

1943
01:21:23,990 --> 01:21:23,360
of everything date uh debris uh debuts

1944
01:21:26,790 --> 01:21:24,000
tonight

1945
01:21:28,390 --> 01:21:26,800
on uh nbc that's a that's another

1946
01:21:29,189 --> 01:21:28,400
scripted drama that's getting ready to

1947
01:21:32,229 --> 01:21:29,199
come out

1948
01:21:35,990 --> 01:21:32,239
um now let's back up for a second

1949
01:21:38,470 --> 01:21:36,000
the fake alien invasion

1950
01:21:39,430 --> 01:21:38,480
is that something that we are going to

1951
01:21:42,709 --> 01:21:39,440
see

1952
01:21:46,550 --> 01:21:42,719
or is it going to be a suggestion

1953
01:21:48,709 --> 01:21:46,560
alien invasion that it is coming

1954
01:21:49,910 --> 01:21:48,719
but you know what i mean is or is this

1955
01:21:50,790 --> 01:21:49,920
going to be some kind of project

1956
01:21:52,310 --> 01:21:50,800
bluebeam

1957
01:21:54,070 --> 01:21:52,320
where we're going to see fake flying

1958
01:21:56,629 --> 01:21:54,080
saucers

1959
01:21:57,750 --> 01:21:56,639
it could be involving all those elements

1960
01:22:01,910 --> 01:21:57,760
at the same time

1961
01:22:05,189 --> 01:22:01,920
but there will be a very real alien tech

1962
01:22:07,110 --> 01:22:05,199
that is used uh during it uh and

1963
01:22:08,390 --> 01:22:07,120
it will be and there will be real

1964
01:22:11,030 --> 01:22:08,400
destruction uh

1965
01:22:12,229 --> 01:22:11,040
against our cities because that's needed

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01:22:14,390 --> 01:22:12,239
they need that

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01:22:15,750 --> 01:22:14,400
in order to in order to make everyone

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01:22:19,510 --> 01:22:15,760
just go crazy

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01:22:22,390 --> 01:22:19,520
and cry out for salvation and uh

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01:22:24,390 --> 01:22:22,400
that's when they want to have the unity

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01:22:25,110 --> 01:22:24,400
behind them so it will be it will be

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01:22:27,990 --> 01:22:25,120
real

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01:22:29,910 --> 01:22:28,000
uh but uh there won't be any physical

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01:22:31,910 --> 01:22:29,920
any physical aliens involved

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01:22:33,030 --> 01:22:31,920
that's the part that's missing right

1976
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right right right

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01:22:38,550 --> 01:22:36,159
is the space force and its creation

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01:22:39,350 --> 01:22:38,560
also the timing of it very suspect just

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01:22:42,870 --> 01:22:39,360
the name

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01:22:45,910 --> 01:22:42,880
space force is suggestive of

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01:22:48,390 --> 01:22:45,920
of something right it's a space force

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01:22:50,390 --> 01:22:48,400
um the timing of that seems strange too

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01:22:54,310 --> 01:22:50,400
as well does the space force

1984
01:22:55,910 --> 01:22:54,320
come into this this agenda

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01:22:57,350 --> 01:22:55,920
yeah absolutely you have to counter

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01:23:00,870 --> 01:22:57,360
against it because

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01:23:04,070 --> 01:23:00,880
space force was partly created uh to

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01:23:04,950 --> 01:23:04,080
try to head this off to stop this from

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happening

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01:23:13,830 --> 01:23:08,780
and and to also

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that's part of the reasons the many

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01:23:19,270 --> 01:23:17,520
reasons that space force

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01:23:20,550 --> 01:23:19,280
was created and spacewar is actively

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engaged in that

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01:23:27,030 --> 01:23:23,920
in that struggle right now because we're

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01:23:30,390 --> 01:23:27,040
basically we're facing a time right now

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01:23:32,870 --> 01:23:30,400
where alien technology is coming to us

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01:23:34,149 --> 01:23:32,880
for certain absolutely it is it's coming

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to us and very very

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01:23:37,590 --> 01:23:37,120
very quickly uh but we're gonna get it

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01:23:39,830 --> 01:23:37,600
in

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01:23:41,750 --> 01:23:39,840
one of two ways we're either gonna get

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01:23:44,229 --> 01:23:41,760
it in the bad way

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01:23:45,030 --> 01:23:44,239
from the uh going to be shooting it at

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01:23:47,830 --> 01:23:45,040
us

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01:23:48,390 --> 01:23:47,840
with these with this fake alien invasion

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01:23:52,470 --> 01:23:48,400
or

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that's going to be giving us

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01:23:57,350 --> 01:23:55,840
things like med beds and good alien

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01:24:00,550 --> 01:23:57,360
technology that's going to help us

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01:24:01,110 --> 01:24:00,560
uplift us and make things you know make

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01:24:04,310 --> 01:24:01,120
things

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01:24:06,790 --> 01:24:04,320
free and equitable for us here on earth

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01:24:07,510 --> 01:24:06,800
so that's the race that we're in right

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01:24:09,990 --> 01:24:07,520
now

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01:24:11,750 --> 01:24:10,000
and these forces are maneuvering with

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01:24:15,270 --> 01:24:11,760
each other and against each other

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01:24:18,870 --> 01:24:15,280
to see which one is able to get to us

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01:24:19,669 --> 01:24:18,880
first you mentioned uh the the cia in

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01:24:21,910 --> 01:24:19,679
hollywood

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01:24:23,110 --> 01:24:21,920
and the connection and if anybody wants

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01:24:25,750 --> 01:24:23,120
to

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01:24:27,430 --> 01:24:25,760
even just a little bit jump down that

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01:24:31,189 --> 01:24:27,440
rabbit hole

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01:24:33,430 --> 01:24:31,199
google search cia entertainment division

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01:24:35,430 --> 01:24:33,440
you can go right to their website and

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01:24:38,629 --> 01:24:35,440
you can read

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01:24:40,550 --> 01:24:38,639
what they're hiring by the way

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01:24:41,910 --> 01:24:40,560
and you can go in and read it for

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01:24:44,470 --> 01:24:41,920
yourself and it's it's

2031
01:24:45,669 --> 01:24:44,480
it's fascinating to go and check that

2032
01:24:49,350 --> 01:24:45,679
out but

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01:24:52,629 --> 01:24:49,360
um did you watch the super bowl

2034
01:24:54,870 --> 01:24:52,639
no okay um

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01:24:56,390 --> 01:24:54,880
the super bowl which everybody loves the

2036
01:24:58,229 --> 01:24:56,400
super bowl ads and

2037
01:24:59,830 --> 01:24:58,239
you know a lot of people don't even

2038
01:25:01,910 --> 01:24:59,840
watch the game

2039
01:25:03,910 --> 01:25:01,920
they watch the super bowl to watch the

2040
01:25:06,950 --> 01:25:03,920
ads and and so forth

2041
01:25:10,830 --> 01:25:06,960
this year the super bowl was

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01:25:14,229 --> 01:25:10,840
uh a ufo et

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01:25:16,390 --> 01:25:14,239
centered uh marketing campaign

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01:25:18,709 --> 01:25:16,400
it was like every other commercial had

2045
01:25:21,669 --> 01:25:18,719
e.t abduction alien invasion

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01:25:22,390 --> 01:25:21,679
tied to it some of it funny some of it

2047
01:25:25,110 --> 01:25:22,400
comical

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01:25:25,750 --> 01:25:25,120
some of it you know a little bit serious

2049
01:25:28,709 --> 01:25:25,760
but

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01:25:29,189 --> 01:25:28,719
the point is it was there and in your

2051
01:25:31,910 --> 01:25:29,199
face

2052
01:25:32,870 --> 01:25:31,920
for a hundred million live viewers uh to

2053
01:25:37,830 --> 01:25:32,880
see

2054
01:25:39,590 --> 01:25:37,840
was a coordinated effort

2055
01:25:42,470 --> 01:25:39,600
there's always a reason things are not

2056
01:25:43,110 --> 01:25:42,480
done for no reason especially at that

2057
01:25:45,270 --> 01:25:43,120
level

2058
01:25:46,870 --> 01:25:45,280
there's always some reason and what's

2059
01:25:49,350 --> 01:25:46,880
terrible about this is what i've always

2060
01:25:53,030 --> 01:25:49,360
said i keep saying to people

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01:25:53,430 --> 01:25:53,040
all of this information is out in the

2062
01:25:55,270 --> 01:25:53,440
open

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01:25:56,470 --> 01:25:55,280
it is available we are in the

2064
01:25:59,510 --> 01:25:56,480
information age

2065
01:26:00,790 --> 01:25:59,520
all this stuff is out there and they're

2066
01:26:02,950 --> 01:26:00,800
just counting on you're

2067
01:26:04,550 --> 01:26:02,960
not going to have the patience to look

2068
01:26:06,950 --> 01:26:04,560
through it and actually find out

2069
01:26:08,790 --> 01:26:06,960
the cia hollywood division i mean that

2070
01:26:11,910 --> 01:26:08,800
stuff is it's out there

2071
01:26:13,270 --> 01:26:11,920
in public that's why we really don't we

2072
01:26:14,709 --> 01:26:13,280
really don't

2073
01:26:16,790 --> 01:26:14,719
and this is a radical statement we don't

2074
01:26:19,510 --> 01:26:16,800
really have a reason

2075
01:26:21,110 --> 01:26:19,520
to have whistleblowers anymore we really

2076
01:26:24,390 --> 01:26:21,120
don't need whistleblowers

2077
01:26:25,110 --> 01:26:24,400
because this information is out there in

2078
01:26:26,629 --> 01:26:25,120
public

2079
01:26:28,470 --> 01:26:26,639
you don't need somebody to violate a

2080
01:26:30,390 --> 01:26:28,480
security oath to uh

2081
01:26:31,590 --> 01:26:30,400
tell you something about what this

2082
01:26:34,709 --> 01:26:31,600
organization is doing

2083
01:26:36,629 --> 01:26:34,719
the cia's information is out in every

2084
01:26:37,590 --> 01:26:36,639
dirty deed just about every dirty deed

2085
01:26:39,830 --> 01:26:37,600
they've ever done

2086
01:26:40,790 --> 01:26:39,840
i mean it's in the public domain they

2087
01:26:43,830 --> 01:26:40,800
people know about

2088
01:26:45,990 --> 01:26:43,840
we know about operation northwoods we

2089
01:26:48,310 --> 01:26:46,000
have it we have every detail of it

2090
01:26:49,350 --> 01:26:48,320
we know the things that they have done

2091
01:26:50,870 --> 01:26:49,360
uh and there's no

2092
01:26:53,189 --> 01:26:50,880
and they don't even bother to hide it

2093
01:26:54,709 --> 01:26:53,199
anymore and why is that because

2094
01:26:56,390 --> 01:26:54,719
there's so much information out there

2095
01:26:58,950 --> 01:26:56,400
they're counting on that you

2096
01:27:00,790 --> 01:26:58,960
will not have the ability to sift

2097
01:27:01,669 --> 01:27:00,800
through it and find what really really

2098
01:27:04,149 --> 01:27:01,679
matters to you

2099
01:27:05,990 --> 01:27:04,159
at this point now um we're going to head

2100
01:27:07,350 --> 01:27:06,000
towards a break when we come back i want

2101
01:27:10,310 --> 01:27:07,360
to talk about the uap

2102
01:27:11,350 --> 01:27:10,320
task force and this report and what we

2103
01:27:14,629 --> 01:27:11,360
can expect

2104
01:27:17,669 --> 01:27:14,639
uh to see in it and before we get there

2105
01:27:17,990 --> 01:27:17,679
just a quick question people talk about

2106
01:27:21,189 --> 01:27:18,000
the men

2107
01:27:24,790 --> 01:27:21,199
in black a lot um is

2108
01:27:28,790 --> 01:27:24,800
the men in black is that an fbi

2109
01:27:32,310 --> 01:27:28,800
thing or is that another agency

2110
01:27:35,590 --> 01:27:32,320
does the fbi have their own men in black

2111
01:27:38,870 --> 01:27:35,600
no absolutely not the men in black are

2112
01:27:42,629 --> 01:27:38,880
real they are out there and they

2113
01:27:44,149 --> 01:27:42,639
are created by globalist forces

2114
01:27:45,990 --> 01:27:44,159
they don't belong to any particular

2115
01:27:49,270 --> 01:27:46,000
nation but they go

2116
01:27:52,390 --> 01:27:49,280
to every nation and they are a

2117
01:27:53,990 --> 01:27:52,400
sort of some kind of form of life that

2118
01:27:55,430 --> 01:27:54,000
we do not even

2119
01:27:57,030 --> 01:27:55,440
we don't even have a description

2120
01:27:59,430 --> 01:27:57,040
definition for

2121
01:28:00,229 --> 01:27:59,440
and they are they have extraordinary

2122
01:28:02,070 --> 01:28:00,239
abilities

2123
01:28:03,830 --> 01:28:02,080
but their greatest ability is that they

2124
01:28:06,870 --> 01:28:03,840
have the ability to

2125
01:28:09,910 --> 01:28:06,880
track down and find any bit of

2126
01:28:12,629 --> 01:28:09,920
alien technology that any person has

2127
01:28:14,629 --> 01:28:12,639
in their possession at any time and

2128
01:28:15,110 --> 01:28:14,639
somehow they have a they have some kind

2129
01:28:17,750 --> 01:28:15,120
of

2130
01:28:18,950 --> 01:28:17,760
radar system some guidance system that

2131
01:28:22,229 --> 01:28:18,960
brings them to

2132
01:28:23,669 --> 01:28:22,239
anyone that has alien tech in their

2133
01:28:27,669 --> 01:28:23,679
possession at any time

2134
01:28:28,390 --> 01:28:27,679
did you say gradar you said gradar

2135
01:28:32,470 --> 01:28:28,400
didn't you

2136
01:28:34,229 --> 01:28:32,480
um uh yes it's very much like radar but

2137
01:28:37,350 --> 01:28:34,239
it's based on the color gray yeah

2138
01:28:38,870 --> 01:28:37,360
yeah very interesting let's take a let's

2139
01:28:41,030 --> 01:28:38,880
take our break right here

2140
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our guest tonight the one and only john

2141
01:28:45,350 --> 01:28:42,080
souza

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john tama books is his website

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and the links are over at jimmy church

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jimmy church this is fade to black more

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2206
01:32:45,910 --> 01:32:42,960
de souza more with john

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in just a second right now i want to

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talk to you about virtual shield

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i guess but you can't see that one or

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these that are under here the monitors

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in front of me

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01:33:58,470 --> 01:33:57,120
we're just talking about the men in

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black i want to

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uh before we get to uh the uap task

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force

2245
01:34:09,990 --> 01:34:07,120
report and what you expect to see in it

2246
01:34:12,070 --> 01:34:10,000
this was about six years ago five years

2247
01:34:16,149 --> 01:34:12,080
ago six years ago

2248
01:34:17,590 --> 01:34:16,159
over at my house the doorbell rings i'm

2249
01:34:20,390 --> 01:34:17,600
on the back patio

2250
01:34:22,790 --> 01:34:20,400
and uh i walk i answer the door and

2251
01:34:26,629 --> 01:34:22,800
there's a lady standing there

2252
01:34:27,910 --> 01:34:26,639
and she's a fed okay she's in a gray

2253
01:34:32,629 --> 01:34:27,920
suit

2254
01:34:37,030 --> 01:34:32,639
um she's by herself she had an ipad and

2255
01:34:39,030 --> 01:34:37,040
she then tells me uh i mean well-dressed

2256
01:34:40,550 --> 01:34:39,040
um and she tells me she's with the

2257
01:34:44,470 --> 01:34:40,560
census

2258
01:34:55,990 --> 01:34:44,480
said what and she goes are you

2259
01:35:00,790 --> 01:34:59,270
said uh uh uh okay whatever boom i

2260
01:35:03,669 --> 01:35:00,800
slammed the door

2261
01:35:05,669 --> 01:35:03,679
okay and uh now i noticed across the

2262
01:35:09,109 --> 01:35:05,679
street

2263
01:35:12,229 --> 01:35:09,119
you know over her shoulder i i swear

2264
01:35:14,229 --> 01:35:12,239
was like a dark gray crown vic and i

2265
01:35:17,350 --> 01:35:14,239
thought wow okay uh

2266
01:35:18,550 --> 01:35:17,360
census driving crown vics in in my gated

2267
01:35:21,109 --> 01:35:18,560
community

2268
01:35:22,870 --> 01:35:21,119
uh knocking on doors yeah this is real

2269
01:35:26,229 --> 01:35:22,880
so anyway i slammed the door

2270
01:35:29,750 --> 01:35:26,239
it was the next day she's back

2271
01:35:32,870 --> 01:35:29,760
and now she hinder that looked like they

2272
01:35:35,910 --> 01:35:32,880
played football for nebraska okay

2273
01:35:38,550 --> 01:35:35,920
two big dudes gray suits and

2274
01:35:40,149 --> 01:35:38,560
and i'm like wait and she goes uh mr

2275
01:35:42,149 --> 01:35:40,159
church we need to talk to you i said no

2276
01:35:45,910 --> 01:35:42,159
you don't

2277
01:35:50,310 --> 01:35:45,920
uh no and and i slammed the door

2278
01:35:53,189 --> 01:35:50,320
um two crown vics now across the street

2279
01:35:55,030 --> 01:35:53,199
and and i walked away and i thought man

2280
01:35:56,310 --> 01:35:55,040
that was just weird now i mentioned it

2281
01:36:00,070 --> 01:35:56,320
to rita

2282
01:36:03,669 --> 01:36:00,080
uh later um now i don't know

2283
01:36:05,350 --> 01:36:03,679
ultimately uh who they were my mistake

2284
01:36:06,950 --> 01:36:05,360
was i didn't do the right thing i didn't

2285
01:36:09,030 --> 01:36:06,960
go out take pictures

2286
01:36:10,070 --> 01:36:09,040
photograph the cars videotape ask

2287
01:36:12,229 --> 01:36:10,080
questions i didn't

2288
01:36:13,990 --> 01:36:12,239
i didn't do any of that and i regret it

2289
01:36:17,270 --> 01:36:14,000
they never came back

2290
01:36:21,350 --> 01:36:17,280
is that does that seem fetish

2291
01:36:25,510 --> 01:36:21,360
fetish fed

2292
01:36:28,149 --> 01:36:25,520
fed-ish uh is that an fbi thing

2293
01:36:29,750 --> 01:36:28,159
is you know that doesn't feel like the

2294
01:36:33,030 --> 01:36:29,760
census to me

2295
01:36:36,390 --> 01:36:33,040
yeah it sounds like some sort of uh

2296
01:36:39,669 --> 01:36:36,400
undercover thing uh maybe for somebody

2297
01:36:41,030 --> 01:36:39,679
at this point because it's just uh very

2298
01:36:42,709 --> 01:36:41,040
they really wanted to get that

2299
01:36:45,590 --> 01:36:42,719
information about you

2300
01:36:46,149 --> 01:36:45,600
and they were uh much more determined

2301
01:36:50,149 --> 01:36:46,159
than uh

2302
01:36:53,430 --> 01:36:50,159
census takers would be and so it's uh

2303
01:36:54,550 --> 01:36:53,440
it's really a very uh strange uh it

2304
01:36:56,550 --> 01:36:54,560
definitely

2305
01:36:57,750 --> 01:36:56,560
well if you're if you're thinking about

2306
01:37:00,229 --> 01:36:57,760
men in black

2307
01:37:01,430 --> 01:37:00,239
uh my question to you would be after

2308
01:37:05,430 --> 01:37:01,440
they left

2309
01:37:08,070 --> 01:37:05,440
start getting a stomachache

2310
01:37:09,189 --> 01:37:08,080
ah yeah i don't remember that's a great

2311
01:37:13,030 --> 01:37:09,199
question

2312
01:37:16,149 --> 01:37:13,040
i don't remember i my feeling was

2313
01:37:19,870 --> 01:37:16,159
um i'll i'll back up

2314
01:37:25,470 --> 01:37:19,880
about uh this is 2021.

2315
01:37:28,550 --> 01:37:25,480
around the year 2010

2316
01:37:32,070 --> 01:37:28,560
2009 um i had

2317
01:37:36,229 --> 01:37:32,080
a very close friend of mine um

2318
01:37:38,390 --> 01:37:36,239
uh get hired uh by the state department

2319
01:37:39,669 --> 01:37:38,400
now what that was involved i'm not gonna

2320
01:37:42,870 --> 01:37:39,679
get into those details

2321
01:37:45,750 --> 01:37:42,880
okay but he said to me he said jimmy um

2322
01:37:47,350 --> 01:37:45,760
i used you as a reference and the state

2323
01:37:48,870 --> 01:37:47,360
department is gonna get a hold of you

2324
01:37:51,109 --> 01:37:48,880
for an interview

2325
01:37:52,149 --> 01:37:51,119
uh character assessment about myself is

2326
01:37:55,750 --> 01:37:52,159
that cool i said yeah

2327
01:37:58,709 --> 01:37:55,760
yeah sure so john

2328
01:37:59,030 --> 01:37:58,719
i signed up for this and i signed up for

2329
01:38:03,030 --> 01:37:59,040
it

2330
01:38:06,070 --> 01:38:03,040
through the experience right

2331
01:38:10,950 --> 01:38:06,080
a state department interview and uh

2332
01:38:13,590 --> 01:38:10,960
this thing went down at a starbucks

2333
01:38:14,550 --> 01:38:13,600
at a starbucks man so i get the phone

2334
01:38:17,750 --> 01:38:14,560
call

2335
01:38:18,149 --> 01:38:17,760
and uh and you know hi i'm special agent

2336
01:38:21,189 --> 01:38:18,159
bob

2337
01:38:23,109 --> 01:38:21,199
love with the state department and uh

2338
01:38:24,870 --> 01:38:23,119
and names are man i said yes yes i'm

2339
01:38:26,550 --> 01:38:24,880
expecting your call okay uh when can we

2340
01:38:29,510 --> 01:38:26,560
get together i said

2341
01:38:32,149 --> 01:38:29,520
uh tomorrow and he said okay i know

2342
01:38:33,990 --> 01:38:32,159
where you live i know the neighborhood

2343
01:38:35,750 --> 01:38:34,000
uh you want to meet at the starbucks on

2344
01:38:37,270 --> 01:38:35,760
such and such a street i thought wow

2345
01:38:38,229 --> 01:38:37,280
okay he does know the neighborhood i

2346
01:38:41,430 --> 01:38:38,239
said okay

2347
01:38:43,189 --> 01:38:41,440
so i show up there uh the next day i

2348
01:38:45,590 --> 01:38:43,199
walk in i look around starbucks this

2349
01:38:47,510 --> 01:38:45,600
dude stood out like a sore thumb right

2350
01:38:49,270 --> 01:38:47,520
everybody in the starbucks is hip young

2351
01:38:51,510 --> 01:38:49,280
and cool right

2352
01:38:52,550 --> 01:38:51,520
this guy's sitting there in a gray suit

2353
01:38:55,270 --> 01:38:52,560
by himself

2354
01:38:56,149 --> 01:38:55,280
at the stable and i walked right up and

2355
01:38:59,430 --> 01:38:56,159
he knew who i was

2356
01:39:02,709 --> 01:38:59,440
you know so we sit down um and he

2357
01:39:05,669 --> 01:39:02,719
had this aura about him

2358
01:39:06,229 --> 01:39:05,679
you know very smart very cool guy i'm

2359
01:39:09,430 --> 01:39:06,239
gonna say

2360
01:39:11,669 --> 01:39:09,440
50 you know like right in there

2361
01:39:13,590 --> 01:39:11,679
um gave me his business card which i

2362
01:39:17,430 --> 01:39:13,600
still have stashed around

2363
01:39:17,910 --> 01:39:17,440
um somewhere but the feeling i got from

2364
01:39:20,790 --> 01:39:17,920
him

2365
01:39:23,510 --> 01:39:20,800
and the way that he looked is what i

2366
01:39:26,790 --> 01:39:23,520
felt at my front door

2367
01:39:27,109 --> 01:39:26,800
i mean cut from the same cloth oh oh oh

2368
01:39:30,629 --> 01:39:27,119
oh

2369
01:39:32,310 --> 01:39:30,639
this guy's car

2370
01:39:34,149 --> 01:39:32,320
when i was walking into starbucks i

2371
01:39:35,910 --> 01:39:34,159
didn't see a fed car right i was

2372
01:39:37,350 --> 01:39:35,920
like you know look right i didn't see

2373
01:39:39,669 --> 01:39:37,360
anything when we

2374
01:39:42,070 --> 01:39:39,679
left he said i'm going to leave first

2375
01:39:44,629 --> 01:39:42,080
and if you could just wait a few minutes

2376
01:39:46,310 --> 01:39:44,639
uh before you leave i thought wow that's

2377
01:39:48,310 --> 01:39:46,320
okay so he leaves and i'm

2378
01:39:49,910 --> 01:39:48,320
kind of watching him and i'm like i

2379
01:39:52,470 --> 01:39:49,920
can't give him a couple of minutes

2380
01:39:55,910 --> 01:39:52,480
and i ran straight out i wanted to see

2381
01:39:59,109 --> 01:39:55,920
what he was driving dude disappeared

2382
01:40:02,149 --> 01:39:59,119
i oh i'm not saying he

2383
01:40:03,189 --> 01:40:02,159
disappeared i'm saying he parked around

2384
01:40:06,310 --> 01:40:03,199
the corner

2385
01:40:08,390 --> 01:40:06,320
he walked fast he uh somewhere

2386
01:40:09,350 --> 01:40:08,400
and got in his car and split i didn't

2387
01:40:12,709 --> 01:40:09,360
see the car

2388
01:40:14,790 --> 01:40:12,719
i didn't see him it was good it was good

2389
01:40:17,030 --> 01:40:14,800
i'm gonna leave first and then you leave

2390
01:40:20,229 --> 01:40:17,040
in about five minutes

2391
01:40:21,430 --> 01:40:20,239
but uh yeah the same same vibe what's

2392
01:40:24,790 --> 01:40:21,440
that

2393
01:40:27,990 --> 01:40:24,800
it looks like he disappears

2394
01:40:31,669 --> 01:40:28,000
so this is my question would the fbi

2395
01:40:35,189 --> 01:40:31,679
uh go out and say

2396
01:40:38,390 --> 01:40:35,199
that they're not the fbi

2397
01:40:44,390 --> 01:40:38,400
oh sure they do all the time they do

2398
01:40:50,790 --> 01:40:48,310
what would a typical thing to be

2399
01:40:51,750 --> 01:40:50,800
did you do that did you say hey i'm with

2400
01:40:58,550 --> 01:40:51,760
uh

2401
01:41:01,830 --> 01:40:58,560
whatever did you no i

2402
01:41:03,510 --> 01:41:01,840
i didn't because i didn't um i never i

2403
01:41:06,709 --> 01:41:03,520
never worked undercover

2404
01:41:09,189 --> 01:41:06,719
type of things so i never

2405
01:41:11,750 --> 01:41:09,199
did do that i always identified myself

2406
01:41:13,910 --> 01:41:11,760
as who i am i was showed my badge

2407
01:41:15,350 --> 01:41:13,920
and uh did my business whatever it might

2408
01:41:17,590 --> 01:41:15,360
be and uh

2409
01:41:18,950 --> 01:41:17,600
and agents are always another good thing

2410
01:41:19,830 --> 01:41:18,960
to remember is agents are always in

2411
01:41:23,830 --> 01:41:19,840
pairs

2412
01:41:25,910 --> 01:41:23,840
good thing to

2413
01:41:27,590 --> 01:41:25,920
and if they're not in pairs then they're

2414
01:41:28,629 --> 01:41:27,600
not following regulations of their own

2415
01:41:31,750 --> 01:41:28,639
agency

2416
01:41:34,229 --> 01:41:31,760
if you have a single agent a single

2417
01:41:35,750 --> 01:41:34,239
fed show up at your door without a

2418
01:41:37,669 --> 01:41:35,760
second person

2419
01:41:39,350 --> 01:41:37,679
they're they're doing something wrong is

2420
01:41:42,070 --> 01:41:39,360
going on first of all

2421
01:41:43,030 --> 01:41:42,080
also if they even if they show you a

2422
01:41:46,870 --> 01:41:43,040
badge

2423
01:41:47,910 --> 01:41:46,880
anybody can copy i mean you can get one

2424
01:41:51,189 --> 01:41:47,920
out of a machine

2425
01:41:51,990 --> 01:41:51,199
it's the number on the badge that makes

2426
01:41:55,109 --> 01:41:52,000
it

2427
01:41:56,149 --> 01:41:55,119
something special something important my

2428
01:41:59,590 --> 01:41:56,159
badge number is

2429
01:42:01,430 --> 01:41:59,600
one zero five eight five that's always

2430
01:42:02,950 --> 01:42:01,440
that will always be my badge number for

2431
01:42:05,750 --> 01:42:02,960
my fbi badge

2432
01:42:07,430 --> 01:42:05,760
forever and always and every agent every

2433
01:42:09,830 --> 01:42:07,440
real fed every real fed

2434
01:42:11,109 --> 01:42:09,840
federal agent knows their badge number

2435
01:42:12,790 --> 01:42:11,119
that's another thing

2436
01:42:14,229 --> 01:42:12,800
and you're supposed to get that badge

2437
01:42:15,910 --> 01:42:14,239
number whenever you

2438
01:42:18,709 --> 01:42:15,920
come in contact with somebody who's a

2439
01:42:19,990 --> 01:42:18,719
who's a fed so that you can ask their

2440
01:42:22,149 --> 01:42:20,000
agency hey

2441
01:42:24,790 --> 01:42:22,159
this guy is he really with your agency

2442
01:42:26,629 --> 01:42:24,800
you call the 202 number whatever it is

2443
01:42:28,070 --> 01:42:26,639
and you call their agency and you say

2444
01:42:30,149 --> 01:42:28,080
hey i've got this guy at my door

2445
01:42:31,830 --> 01:42:30,159
he's got a badge that could be out of a

2446
01:42:33,430 --> 01:42:31,840
popcorn machine for all i know but it

2447
01:42:35,510 --> 01:42:33,440
had this number on it

2448
01:42:37,270 --> 01:42:35,520
and this number is one zero five eight

2449
01:42:39,270 --> 01:42:37,280
five can you verify

2450
01:42:41,350 --> 01:42:39,280
for me that this is an agent at your

2451
01:42:43,990 --> 01:42:41,360
agency and they have to tell you

2452
01:42:45,510 --> 01:42:44,000
that's it and that's really the only way

2453
01:42:47,669 --> 01:42:45,520
to resolve

2454
01:42:48,709 --> 01:42:47,679
uh who is who when you're dealing with

2455
01:42:51,109 --> 01:42:48,719
them uh

2456
01:42:52,149 --> 01:42:51,119
you know this person said their senses

2457
01:42:54,790 --> 01:42:52,159
whatever

2458
01:42:55,750 --> 01:42:54,800
there's no i don't really recognize that

2459
01:42:58,390 --> 01:42:55,760
as a real thing

2460
01:42:59,590 --> 01:42:58,400
anyway so i would have slammed the door

2461
01:43:03,109 --> 01:42:59,600
on him too just like you

2462
01:43:05,510 --> 01:43:03,119
it was bizarre does the fbi attend ufo

2463
01:43:09,510 --> 01:43:05,520
conferences

2464
01:43:12,629 --> 01:43:09,520
i doubt it i doubt it very much

2465
01:43:16,070 --> 01:43:12,639
um the i'd say that's more

2466
01:43:18,229 --> 01:43:16,080
in the purview of people who uh

2467
01:43:20,070 --> 01:43:18,239
who work against the american people

2468
01:43:22,070 --> 01:43:20,080
like the cia

2469
01:43:25,590 --> 01:43:22,080
that's more that's more in their little

2470
01:43:28,870 --> 01:43:25,600
baileywick i would say and uh i have

2471
01:43:30,790 --> 01:43:28,880
i have seen people that uh look like cia

2472
01:43:33,030 --> 01:43:30,800
contractors to me

2473
01:43:33,990 --> 01:43:33,040
at uh some of these uh some of these

2474
01:43:37,109 --> 01:43:34,000
conferences

2475
01:43:37,990 --> 01:43:37,119
that i've gone to and i do i see some of

2476
01:43:40,149 --> 01:43:38,000
these uh

2477
01:43:41,830 --> 01:43:40,159
little pip squeaks that look like uh

2478
01:43:44,629 --> 01:43:41,840
look like cia contractors

2479
01:43:45,830 --> 01:43:44,639
cia people to me uh and that's a totally

2480
01:43:47,750 --> 01:43:45,840
different thing

2481
01:43:49,590 --> 01:43:47,760
fbi wouldn't fbi wouldn't get involved

2482
01:43:49,990 --> 01:43:49,600
with that uh fbi wouldn't get involved

2483
01:43:51,910 --> 01:43:50,000
but

2484
01:43:53,910 --> 01:43:51,920
you so you're saying that with your

2485
01:43:56,629 --> 01:43:53,920
ability to

2486
01:43:57,030 --> 01:43:56,639
to detect you know an individual like

2487
01:44:02,870 --> 01:43:57,040
this

2488
01:44:06,310 --> 01:44:02,880
on at ufo uh conventions

2489
01:44:09,990 --> 01:44:06,320
yes yes i have i've seen people that i

2490
01:44:13,189 --> 01:44:10,000
absolutely would have pegged as

2491
01:44:14,870 --> 01:44:13,199
uh cia contractors i would say that's

2492
01:44:15,590 --> 01:44:14,880
what we call them contractors cia

2493
01:44:18,470 --> 01:44:15,600
doesn't

2494
01:44:19,430 --> 01:44:18,480
really put peop put themselves on the

2495
01:44:23,270 --> 01:44:19,440
ground

2496
01:44:26,629 --> 01:44:23,280
they use contractors they use people

2497
01:44:28,070 --> 01:44:26,639
outside to do things like that to

2498
01:44:30,149 --> 01:44:28,080
collect information

2499
01:44:31,910 --> 01:44:30,159
at conferences and things like that and

2500
01:44:33,430 --> 01:44:31,920
i have encountered those individuals and

2501
01:44:35,109 --> 01:44:33,440
i've tried to talk to them

2502
01:44:37,430 --> 01:44:35,119
and they won't even look me in the eye

2503
01:44:39,750 --> 01:44:37,440
and they walk away real fast

2504
01:44:41,189 --> 01:44:39,760
uh that's and that's just been my

2505
01:44:43,510 --> 01:44:41,199
experience my own experience

2506
01:44:44,470 --> 01:44:43,520
i need to pay more attention at the ufo

2507
01:44:46,709 --> 01:44:44,480
conferences

2508
01:44:48,709 --> 01:44:46,719
i'm always and you know you and i have

2509
01:44:49,189 --> 01:44:48,719
hung out a lot i like to have a good

2510
01:44:51,270 --> 01:44:49,199
time

2511
01:44:52,310 --> 01:44:51,280
and and hang out and and i'm not paying

2512
01:44:55,350 --> 01:44:52,320
attention

2513
01:44:56,709 --> 01:44:55,360
i i i just think i need to observe uh a

2514
01:44:59,189 --> 01:44:56,719
little bit more

2515
01:45:00,070 --> 01:44:59,199
at these i would love to call somebody

2516
01:45:02,149 --> 01:45:00,080
out

2517
01:45:03,669 --> 01:45:02,159
you know and and just to see their

2518
01:45:07,430 --> 01:45:03,679
reaction to it because

2519
01:45:09,030 --> 01:45:07,440
either you're uh you're there as a

2520
01:45:11,430 --> 01:45:09,040
you know somebody with genuine interest

2521
01:45:13,430 --> 01:45:11,440
in in ufos and you're a civilian

2522
01:45:14,550 --> 01:45:13,440
and you'll engage in a conversation and

2523
01:45:16,790 --> 01:45:14,560
laugh about it

2524
01:45:18,229 --> 01:45:16,800
but if you're not i don't think you

2525
01:45:20,310 --> 01:45:18,239
would engage in that type of

2526
01:45:22,390 --> 01:45:20,320
conversation you wouldn't laugh it off

2527
01:45:24,070 --> 01:45:22,400
i need to do it i need to do it maybe

2528
01:45:25,669 --> 01:45:24,080
i'll maybe i'll

2529
01:45:27,750 --> 01:45:25,679
engage your help and we can point

2530
01:45:29,109 --> 01:45:27,760
somebody out and and

2531
01:45:31,270 --> 01:45:29,119
and do it i think it would be a lot of

2532
01:45:32,790 --> 01:45:31,280
fun oh yeah i would but you'd be a

2533
01:45:33,109 --> 01:45:32,800
little bit shocked jimmy at the people

2534
01:45:36,149 --> 01:45:33,119
that

2535
01:45:39,750 --> 01:45:36,159
to you

2536
01:45:42,550 --> 01:45:39,760
so you might be a little surprised

2537
01:45:44,550 --> 01:45:42,560
how so because it wouldn't be the people

2538
01:45:45,030 --> 01:45:44,560
that you expect that you'd expect that

2539
01:45:48,310 --> 01:45:45,040
you would

2540
01:45:51,030 --> 01:45:48,320
or suspect let's put it that way so

2541
01:45:53,030 --> 01:45:51,040
yeah that's uh something that uh you

2542
01:45:55,109 --> 01:45:53,040
need to go through to actually

2543
01:45:56,870 --> 01:45:55,119
live through it to see what it is at the

2544
01:46:00,709 --> 01:45:56,880
big hacker convention

2545
01:46:03,430 --> 01:46:00,719
in uh las vegas that they do every year

2546
01:46:05,189 --> 01:46:03,440
um they have a little game that they

2547
01:46:08,229 --> 01:46:05,199
play called spot the fed

2548
01:46:08,629 --> 01:46:08,239
right okay and so and they'll bring up

2549
01:46:10,790 --> 01:46:08,639
five

2550
01:46:12,790 --> 01:46:10,800
six seven people on stage where the

2551
01:46:15,430 --> 01:46:12,800
audience is calling out

2552
01:46:15,990 --> 01:46:15,440
you know who they think are feds right

2553
01:46:18,629 --> 01:46:16,000
and

2554
01:46:19,590 --> 01:46:18,639
um the feds like to play this game

2555
01:46:21,430 --> 01:46:19,600
actually because

2556
01:46:23,350 --> 01:46:21,440
if you get called out and you're

2557
01:46:23,750 --> 01:46:23,360
questioned on stage and then they find

2558
01:46:26,709 --> 01:46:23,760
out

2559
01:46:27,910 --> 01:46:26,719
who is the fed right you get a t-shirt i

2560
01:46:30,149 --> 01:46:27,920
was spotted

2561
01:46:31,109 --> 01:46:30,159
right and you get the spot the fed

2562
01:46:34,390 --> 01:46:31,119
t-shirt

2563
01:46:35,430 --> 01:46:34,400
well um a couple of videos that i've

2564
01:46:37,750 --> 01:46:35,440
watched of this

2565
01:46:39,350 --> 01:46:37,760
i've watched a lot of videos but in a

2566
01:46:43,830 --> 01:46:39,360
couple of them

2567
01:46:47,510 --> 01:46:43,840
the feds were women

2568
01:46:50,229 --> 01:46:47,520
younger and uh

2569
01:46:51,910 --> 01:46:50,239
one of them was an air force employee

2570
01:46:52,950 --> 01:46:51,920
another one was a state department

2571
01:46:56,310 --> 01:46:52,960
employee

2572
01:46:58,629 --> 01:46:56,320
i i on everything that i loved the last

2573
01:47:01,669 --> 01:46:58,639
person in the room you would pick

2574
01:47:02,390 --> 01:47:01,679
wow you would never ever ever and i

2575
01:47:04,709 --> 01:47:02,400
remember

2576
01:47:06,070 --> 01:47:04,719
you know i got seven uh feds uh you know

2577
01:47:09,030 --> 01:47:06,080
up on the stage

2578
01:47:09,590 --> 01:47:09,040
and i'm thinking yeah him for sure yeah

2579
01:47:12,709 --> 01:47:09,600
him

2580
01:47:16,070 --> 01:47:12,719
definitely and it was

2581
01:47:18,950 --> 01:47:16,080
it was these uh middle-aged females

2582
01:47:20,629 --> 01:47:18,960
there you go just like uh just like

2583
01:47:21,189 --> 01:47:20,639
serial killers they look just like you

2584
01:47:23,270 --> 01:47:21,199
and me

2585
01:47:25,270 --> 01:47:23,280
like anybody else just like serial

2586
01:47:28,310 --> 01:47:25,280
killers okay let's not go there

2587
01:47:31,669 --> 01:47:28,320
oh man all right let's get to the uap

2588
01:47:32,870 --> 01:47:31,679
task force report um lots of people

2589
01:47:35,990 --> 01:47:32,880
talking about it

2590
01:47:36,790 --> 01:47:36,000
a lot of excitement out there and of

2591
01:47:39,270 --> 01:47:36,800
course

2592
01:47:41,030 --> 01:47:39,280
the disclosure community is is is

2593
01:47:44,629 --> 01:47:41,040
pinning a lot of hopes

2594
01:47:47,270 --> 01:47:44,639
on this report um due

2595
01:47:48,550 --> 01:47:47,280
in well it was six months back uh in

2596
01:47:51,910 --> 01:47:48,560
january so

2597
01:47:54,550 --> 01:47:51,920
we're looking at uh june maybe

2598
01:47:57,350 --> 01:47:54,560
july what do you expect to see in this

2599
01:48:03,350 --> 01:48:00,870
i expect to see um

2600
01:48:04,310 --> 01:48:03,360
stuff that is not going to be in our

2601
01:48:06,310 --> 01:48:04,320
favor

2602
01:48:07,830 --> 01:48:06,320
it's just stuff that's going to be

2603
01:48:11,189 --> 01:48:07,840
leading to

2604
01:48:13,430 --> 01:48:11,199
other things i don't i don't think it's

2605
01:48:14,709 --> 01:48:13,440
it's going to be anything that's

2606
01:48:16,550 --> 01:48:14,719
relevatory in it

2607
01:48:18,629 --> 01:48:16,560
in and of itself it's going to be just

2608
01:48:21,669 --> 01:48:18,639
leading us to other places

2609
01:48:22,229 --> 01:48:21,679
to give them more room more room and

2610
01:48:26,709 --> 01:48:22,239
more

2611
01:48:28,709 --> 01:48:26,719
things to be able to to reveal

2612
01:48:30,629 --> 01:48:28,719
because like i said this is part of us

2613
01:48:32,470 --> 01:48:30,639
the same psyop

2614
01:48:33,830 --> 01:48:32,480
the same psychological operation that

2615
01:48:36,870 --> 01:48:33,840
they've had going

2616
01:48:37,830 --> 01:48:36,880
uh for for about a year now and it's

2617
01:48:39,669 --> 01:48:37,840
going to continue

2618
01:48:41,270 --> 01:48:39,679
and i i really don't think we're going

2619
01:48:44,790 --> 01:48:41,280
to be seeing anything

2620
01:48:46,310 --> 01:48:44,800
definitive but uh but it's just going to

2621
01:48:51,109 --> 01:48:46,320
point us towards

2622
01:48:54,950 --> 01:48:51,119
more more uh more pools of information

2623
01:48:57,109 --> 01:48:54,960
more pools of of stuff that we can go to

2624
01:48:58,229 --> 01:48:57,119
to try to find out more that's what i

2625
01:49:00,149 --> 01:48:58,239
think

2626
01:49:02,390 --> 01:49:00,159
there is another section of the report

2627
01:49:03,669 --> 01:49:02,400
i'm going to stay on that thought though

2628
01:49:05,350 --> 01:49:03,679
there's another section of the report

2629
01:49:07,750 --> 01:49:05,360
that is reserved for classified

2630
01:49:11,669 --> 01:49:07,760
information

2631
01:49:13,109 --> 01:49:11,679
that is that the way out from publicly

2632
01:49:15,669 --> 01:49:13,119
disclosing other stuff

2633
01:49:17,270 --> 01:49:15,679
that the real good stuff is going to be

2634
01:49:17,589 --> 01:49:17,280
in the classified and then we're going

2635
01:49:19,589 --> 01:49:17,599
to

2636
01:49:22,149 --> 01:49:19,599
get the watered-down version on the

2637
01:49:23,510 --> 01:49:22,159
public side if we get anything at all

2638
01:49:25,669 --> 01:49:23,520
well it's going to be the way that they

2639
01:49:26,790 --> 01:49:25,679
can pretend that there's something

2640
01:49:29,750 --> 01:49:26,800
really really

2641
01:49:30,149 --> 01:49:29,760
big in the classified section because

2642
01:49:32,470 --> 01:49:30,159
over

2643
01:49:33,510 --> 01:49:32,480
classification is a way of life in these

2644
01:49:35,910 --> 01:49:33,520
areas

2645
01:49:37,830 --> 01:49:35,920
over classification of everything it's

2646
01:49:39,990 --> 01:49:37,840
just a way to um

2647
01:49:42,149 --> 01:49:40,000
to pretend that you've got really spicy

2648
01:49:44,709 --> 01:49:42,159
stuff in the classified section

2649
01:49:46,550 --> 01:49:44,719
that's that's what i've seen in areas

2650
01:49:48,149 --> 01:49:46,560
like this and i think

2651
01:49:49,910 --> 01:49:48,159
there's there's not going to be anything

2652
01:49:52,390 --> 01:49:49,920
really of that

2653
01:49:53,510 --> 01:49:52,400
great import in the uh classified

2654
01:49:56,870 --> 01:49:53,520
sections either

2655
01:50:01,109 --> 01:49:56,880
uh will the senate intelligence

2656
01:50:03,669 --> 01:50:01,119
committee have access to the classified

2657
01:50:05,830 --> 01:50:03,679
section of the report

2658
01:50:07,589 --> 01:50:05,840
yeah they will but half of them won't

2659
01:50:10,149 --> 01:50:07,599
even know what they're reading anyway

2660
01:50:12,550 --> 01:50:10,159
i mean you'd have to have knowledge in

2661
01:50:15,430 --> 01:50:12,560
these areas you'd have to have

2662
01:50:16,070 --> 01:50:15,440
understanding in these areas you know i

2663
01:50:19,350 --> 01:50:16,080
could

2664
01:50:22,390 --> 01:50:19,360
the

2665
01:50:24,550 --> 01:50:22,400
ufology community who will know

2666
01:50:25,589 --> 01:50:24,560
what they're looking at better than

2667
01:50:27,990 --> 01:50:25,599
those senators

2668
01:50:28,790 --> 01:50:28,000
on that committee so that's what i'm

2669
01:50:30,470 --> 01:50:28,800
saying you know

2670
01:50:32,629 --> 01:50:30,480
reading these these reports and these

2671
01:50:34,390 --> 01:50:32,639
things you know if you don't really

2672
01:50:35,990 --> 01:50:34,400
if you don't really know what you're

2673
01:50:38,310 --> 01:50:36,000
looking at

2674
01:50:39,750 --> 01:50:38,320
then what good is it anyway it doesn't

2675
01:50:43,430 --> 01:50:39,760
really um

2676
01:50:46,790 --> 01:50:43,440
make it make a difference now um

2677
01:50:49,910 --> 01:50:46,800
do you expect

2678
01:50:53,510 --> 01:50:49,920
an et component in this report

2679
01:50:56,790 --> 01:50:53,520
or is it going to be uap

2680
01:51:00,070 --> 01:50:56,800
terrestrial uh you know

2681
01:51:03,430 --> 01:51:00,080
foreign domestic uh

2682
01:51:06,149 --> 01:51:03,440
military gear drones you know at

2683
01:51:07,189 --> 01:51:06,159
all yeah uh yeah it's gonna be yeah it's

2684
01:51:09,830 --> 01:51:07,199
gonna be that

2685
01:51:11,750 --> 01:51:09,840
uh they they can't mention the alien

2686
01:51:12,709 --> 01:51:11,760
visitors they can't get into the alien

2687
01:51:15,109 --> 01:51:12,719
visitors

2688
01:51:16,629 --> 01:51:15,119
uh because they don't have any to show

2689
01:51:18,310 --> 01:51:16,639
uh if they

2690
01:51:20,229 --> 01:51:18,320
they can't uh get into that they're

2691
01:51:23,990 --> 01:51:20,239
gonna have to concentrate

2692
01:51:25,830 --> 01:51:24,000
on alien tech on the tic tacs on

2693
01:51:27,030 --> 01:51:25,840
the materials you know the materials

2694
01:51:29,189 --> 01:51:27,040
from the ship we have

2695
01:51:30,310 --> 01:51:29,199
we now have reviewed materials from the

2696
01:51:32,629 --> 01:51:30,320
ship

2697
01:51:34,229 --> 01:51:32,639
they don't have bodies to show like they

2698
01:51:35,750 --> 01:51:34,239
did at roswell

2699
01:51:37,510 --> 01:51:35,760
where they were able to produce these

2700
01:51:40,149 --> 01:51:37,520
hybrid bodies uh

2701
01:51:40,550 --> 01:51:40,159
that were created for that purpose and

2702
01:51:42,390 --> 01:51:40,560
uh

2703
01:51:44,229 --> 01:51:42,400
so because they don't they're not going

2704
01:51:45,270 --> 01:51:44,239
to be able to refer to actual alien

2705
01:51:48,550 --> 01:51:45,280
visitors

2706
01:51:51,109 --> 01:51:48,560
so marco rubio and the rest of the

2707
01:51:54,950 --> 01:51:51,119
senate intelligence committee

2708
01:51:59,030 --> 01:51:54,960
is not going to be briefed on

2709
01:52:02,709 --> 01:51:59,040
ufos not of this earth visitors from

2710
01:52:04,390 --> 01:52:02,719
another star system to this planet

2711
01:52:06,550 --> 01:52:04,400
you know i'm being very clear here right

2712
01:52:08,470 --> 01:52:06,560
there it's either us or them

2713
01:52:09,669 --> 01:52:08,480
and you're saying that marco rubio there

2714
01:52:13,109 --> 01:52:09,679
won't be

2715
01:52:13,910 --> 01:52:13,119
um an alien ufo component as we

2716
01:52:17,350 --> 01:52:13,920
understand it

2717
01:52:17,750 --> 01:52:17,360
in that report well they can talk about

2718
01:52:24,709 --> 01:52:17,760
the

2719
01:52:27,990 --> 01:52:24,719
gonna be revealing

2720
01:52:30,629 --> 01:52:28,000
materials that these uh from these

2721
01:52:31,990 --> 01:52:30,639
wrecked ufos they'll be talking about

2722
01:52:36,149 --> 01:52:32,000
all the components and

2723
01:52:38,229 --> 01:52:36,159
things like that but the actual

2724
01:52:40,709 --> 01:52:38,239
the bodies the corpus they're not gonna

2725
01:52:42,870 --> 01:52:40,719
produce the corpus they're not gonna

2726
01:52:45,030 --> 01:52:42,880
they're not going to go into the actual

2727
01:52:47,270 --> 01:52:45,040
alien visitor bodies themselves

2728
01:52:48,149 --> 01:52:47,280
you think that they would mention uh

2729
01:52:52,870 --> 01:52:48,159
crashed

2730
01:52:55,589 --> 01:52:52,880
and and debris

2731
01:52:58,149 --> 01:52:55,599
you think that would be in the report

2732
01:53:00,070 --> 01:52:58,159
yeah i think it will be ultimately yeah

2733
01:53:02,629 --> 01:53:00,080
they they will go into that because they

2734
01:53:03,350 --> 01:53:02,639
have they have plenty to draw on in that

2735
01:53:07,669 --> 01:53:03,360
area

2736
01:53:10,870 --> 01:53:07,679
we've had so many uh supposed supposed

2737
01:53:14,310 --> 01:53:10,880
ufo crashes uh around the world

2738
01:53:16,149 --> 01:53:14,320
not just not just at roswell but

2739
01:53:18,390 --> 01:53:16,159
around the world as well and they're

2740
01:53:21,830 --> 01:53:18,400
going to be discussing all the

2741
01:53:23,750 --> 01:53:21,840
all of that about the materials and how

2742
01:53:25,510 --> 01:53:23,760
and ultimately they'll be talking about

2743
01:53:27,589 --> 01:53:25,520
reconstituting the materials

2744
01:53:29,270 --> 01:53:27,599
so that we can use them for our

2745
01:53:31,350 --> 01:53:29,280
technology purposes

2746
01:53:32,950 --> 01:53:31,360
and doing you know and making all kinds

2747
01:53:35,430 --> 01:53:32,960
of promises for

2748
01:53:37,750 --> 01:53:35,440
anti-grav and plenty of other things as

2749
01:53:42,270 --> 01:53:37,760
well that's what i expect to see

2750
01:53:45,669 --> 01:53:42,280
when um uh captain fravor david fravor

2751
01:53:48,950 --> 01:53:45,679
described what he saw flying

2752
01:53:52,830 --> 01:53:48,960
right at these speeds and exiting

2753
01:53:56,070 --> 01:53:52,840
um that part

2754
01:53:58,790 --> 01:53:56,080
supports sort of what's in the videos

2755
01:53:59,669 --> 01:53:58,800
what's in the videos is not what is

2756
01:54:02,470 --> 01:53:59,679
described

2757
01:54:03,030 --> 01:54:02,480
by fravor it's like two different things

2758
01:54:06,070 --> 01:54:03,040
exactly

2759
01:54:09,990 --> 01:54:06,080
um

2760
01:54:12,709 --> 01:54:10,000
did do you think that what fravor saw

2761
01:54:14,709 --> 01:54:12,719
was russian do you think it was chinese

2762
01:54:18,310 --> 01:54:14,719
or do you think that was

2763
01:54:20,870 --> 01:54:18,320
american no i believe these uh

2764
01:54:22,550 --> 01:54:20,880
these super weapons these tic tacs that

2765
01:54:24,790 --> 01:54:22,560
are top secret weapons

2766
01:54:26,149 --> 01:54:24,800
uh belong to the united states that's

2767
01:54:28,790 --> 01:54:26,159
exactly why

2768
01:54:30,870 --> 01:54:28,800
they needed a place to test these top

2769
01:54:32,550 --> 01:54:30,880
secret weapons in 2004.

2770
01:54:33,990 --> 01:54:32,560
uh they did it off the co i think was

2771
01:54:36,070 --> 01:54:34,000
off the coast of california

2772
01:54:37,589 --> 01:54:36,080
yeah san diego san diego and the other

2773
01:54:39,270 --> 01:54:37,599
one off the coast of uh

2774
01:54:41,030 --> 01:54:39,280
the east coast of the united states

2775
01:54:43,270 --> 01:54:41,040
roosevelt right

2776
01:54:44,950 --> 01:54:43,280
and they needed specifically because of

2777
01:54:47,350 --> 01:54:44,960
the chinese and the russians

2778
01:54:48,709 --> 01:54:47,360
they needed a completely secure space to

2779
01:54:51,189 --> 01:54:48,719
test these weapons

2780
01:54:53,030 --> 01:54:51,199
and so they had the entire nimitz

2781
01:54:55,589 --> 01:54:53,040
carrier group

2782
01:54:56,470 --> 01:54:55,599
form a semicircle horseshoe around this

2783
01:54:58,629 --> 01:54:56,480
area

2784
01:55:00,709 --> 01:54:58,639
and then they had the weapons go ahead

2785
01:55:02,870 --> 01:55:00,719
and test along with pilots

2786
01:55:03,990 --> 01:55:02,880
you know flying close to them as well

2787
01:55:06,870 --> 01:55:04,000
and that's exactly

2788
01:55:08,310 --> 01:55:06,880
how that went down did you say that the

2789
01:55:11,669 --> 01:55:08,320
carrier group was in

2790
01:55:12,310 --> 01:55:11,679
a horseshoe shaped yeah that's what i

2791
01:55:14,950 --> 01:55:12,320
imagined

2792
01:55:16,790 --> 01:55:14,960
because the nimitz probably hung back

2793
01:55:17,990 --> 01:55:16,800
and then the rest of the carrier group

2794
01:55:20,790 --> 01:55:18,000
had to forma

2795
01:55:21,990 --> 01:55:20,800
form some kind of line towards the

2796
01:55:25,510 --> 01:55:22,000
weapons testing

2797
01:55:29,589 --> 01:55:25,520
area right right um now

2798
01:55:33,990 --> 01:55:29,599
you've described this as a weapon is it

2799
01:55:38,629 --> 01:55:34,000
a a drone that can carry weapons

2800
01:55:40,790 --> 01:55:38,639
or is it a missile itself

2801
01:55:42,149 --> 01:55:40,800
i think the whole thing it can function

2802
01:55:44,310 --> 01:55:42,159
as a weapon

2803
01:55:45,270 --> 01:55:44,320
itself it hasn't displayed those it

2804
01:55:48,070 --> 01:55:45,280
hasn't shown

2805
01:55:48,950 --> 01:55:48,080
that quality off yet by destroying you

2806
01:55:51,030 --> 01:55:48,960
know planes

2807
01:55:53,030 --> 01:55:51,040
i mean we couldn't at the time in 2004

2808
01:55:55,510 --> 01:55:53,040
because those were our own planes

2809
01:55:56,070 --> 01:55:55,520
you know that were next to the tic tacs

2810
01:55:58,470 --> 01:55:56,080
but i

2811
01:55:59,990 --> 01:55:58,480
absolutely am absolutely certain that

2812
01:56:02,229 --> 01:56:00,000
with the capacities

2813
01:56:03,430 --> 01:56:02,239
the speeds the maneuverability that

2814
01:56:05,189 --> 01:56:03,440
those things have

2815
01:56:07,109 --> 01:56:05,199
that they are they absolutely have

2816
01:56:08,870 --> 01:56:07,119
weapons capacity as well

2817
01:56:10,229 --> 01:56:08,880
and it's probably not with projectiles

2818
01:56:13,750 --> 01:56:10,239
it's probably something

2819
01:56:17,109 --> 01:56:13,760
else something else that functions um

2820
01:56:19,669 --> 01:56:17,119
along the uh along the skin of the

2821
01:56:21,109 --> 01:56:19,679
of the craft itself and that it does

2822
01:56:24,310 --> 01:56:21,119
have the capacity to

2823
01:56:26,629 --> 01:56:24,320
uh destroy other slower

2824
01:56:29,030 --> 01:56:26,639
vehicles now because that's what gives

2825
01:56:32,229 --> 01:56:29,040
us power yeah i think what supports

2826
01:56:34,709 --> 01:56:32,239
uh what you're saying here the most

2827
01:56:35,669 --> 01:56:34,719
is that both with the nimitz less with

2828
01:56:39,189 --> 01:56:35,679
the roosevelt

2829
01:56:41,030 --> 01:56:39,199
but with both cases that this was a

2830
01:56:44,470 --> 01:56:41,040
united states thing

2831
01:56:47,189 --> 01:56:44,480
if the tic tac was extraterrestrial

2832
01:56:47,750 --> 01:56:47,199
the russians and the chinese would be

2833
01:56:49,910 --> 01:56:47,760
having

2834
01:56:51,589 --> 01:56:49,920
the same experiences and we would have

2835
01:56:54,629 --> 01:56:51,599
the same reports

2836
01:56:57,189 --> 01:56:54,639
it wouldn't just be with the united

2837
01:56:58,950 --> 01:56:57,199
the united states military and that's

2838
01:57:00,790 --> 01:56:58,960
where i just kind of have to step back

2839
01:57:02,950 --> 01:57:00,800
and go wait a minute here

2840
01:57:03,910 --> 01:57:02,960
we should have reports from japan from

2841
01:57:06,950 --> 01:57:03,920
canada

2842
01:57:09,510 --> 01:57:06,960
from china from russia

2843
01:57:11,510 --> 01:57:09,520
all over africa it doesn't matter right

2844
01:57:13,750 --> 01:57:11,520
we should hear reports of this uh

2845
01:57:14,870 --> 01:57:13,760
throughout the middle east uh but we

2846
01:57:18,310 --> 01:57:14,880
don't it's

2847
01:57:20,470 --> 01:57:18,320
just been with the united states

2848
01:57:21,990 --> 01:57:20,480
but the other tip off that tells you

2849
01:57:24,870 --> 01:57:22,000
that this was

2850
01:57:25,270 --> 01:57:24,880
these were uh super weapons uh being

2851
01:57:27,430 --> 01:57:25,280
used

2852
01:57:29,750 --> 01:57:27,440
at the in the united states at the

2853
01:57:32,550 --> 01:57:29,760
united states navy specifically

2854
01:57:33,430 --> 01:57:32,560
is that for a period there we had a long

2855
01:57:35,189 --> 01:57:33,440
period there

2856
01:57:36,709 --> 01:57:35,199
where everybody was yelling he was

2857
01:57:38,629 --> 01:57:36,719
yelling out well somebody from the

2858
01:57:39,189 --> 01:57:38,639
pentagon has to make a comment about

2859
01:57:40,870 --> 01:57:39,199
this

2860
01:57:42,629 --> 01:57:40,880
somebody's got a general probably a

2861
01:57:44,709 --> 01:57:42,639
general has to say something

2862
01:57:47,109 --> 01:57:44,719
has to come forward and say yeah this

2863
01:57:48,229 --> 01:57:47,119
program we managed this program we did

2864
01:57:50,390 --> 01:57:48,239
this we did that

2865
01:57:51,990 --> 01:57:50,400
well finally there was an individual i

2866
01:57:53,990 --> 01:57:52,000
don't have his name right here

2867
01:57:55,350 --> 01:57:54,000
but there was an individual from the u.s

2868
01:57:58,390 --> 01:57:55,360
navy who

2869
01:58:02,550 --> 01:57:58,400
came forward and spoke about the

2870
01:58:04,950 --> 01:58:02,560
about the uaps about the tic tacs

2871
01:58:06,070 --> 01:58:04,960
and he just gave a statement he gave a

2872
01:58:08,790 --> 01:58:06,080
statement that just

2873
01:58:09,990 --> 01:58:08,800
basically said yes this was a real thing

2874
01:58:12,470 --> 01:58:10,000
that happened

2875
01:58:13,830 --> 01:58:12,480
uh right off san diego right off the

2876
01:58:16,149 --> 01:58:13,840
pacific coast

2877
01:58:17,109 --> 01:58:16,159
and it happened right when the nimitz

2878
01:58:20,790 --> 01:58:17,119
was there

2879
01:58:24,790 --> 01:58:20,800
and we have uh and we have no idea

2880
01:58:28,550 --> 01:58:24,800
what these unknown aerial uh aerial uh

2881
01:58:30,310 --> 01:58:28,560
craft are we have no idea we don't know

2882
01:58:32,629 --> 01:58:30,320
and that was the only statement that he

2883
01:58:36,149 --> 01:58:32,639
released and this is easy to look up

2884
01:58:37,030 --> 01:58:36,159
at any time he but if you look at his

2885
01:58:39,189 --> 01:58:37,040
name

2886
01:58:40,390 --> 01:58:39,199
and you look at and you follow his title

2887
01:58:43,189 --> 01:58:40,400
you go to the navy

2888
01:58:44,550 --> 01:58:43,199
the navy website and look up his title

2889
01:58:45,510 --> 01:58:44,560
and this was actually reported too in

2890
01:58:48,229 --> 01:58:45,520
the news

2891
01:58:48,629 --> 01:58:48,239
the division of the navy that he's from

2892
01:58:51,270 --> 01:58:48,639
this

2893
01:58:51,910 --> 01:58:51,280
navy official navy he was the spokesman

2894
01:58:54,470 --> 01:58:51,920
for like an

2895
01:58:55,669 --> 01:58:54,480
admiral an admiral but his division

2896
01:58:58,790 --> 01:58:55,679
where he came from

2897
01:59:01,990 --> 01:58:58,800
is information warfare

2898
01:59:04,709 --> 01:59:02,000
information warfare division of the navy

2899
01:59:05,350 --> 01:59:04,719
also called information dominance as

2900
01:59:07,589 --> 01:59:05,360
well

2901
01:59:10,070 --> 01:59:07,599
okay these are the people who are

2902
01:59:12,470 --> 01:59:10,080
supposed to lie to you

2903
01:59:13,910 --> 01:59:12,480
that's exact that's their whole job to

2904
01:59:16,709 --> 01:59:13,920
lie to you deceive

2905
01:59:19,430 --> 01:59:16,719
and manage information so that the enemy

2906
01:59:21,990 --> 01:59:19,440
will never know what's really going on

2907
01:59:23,109 --> 01:59:22,000
that's their whole job that is the

2908
01:59:24,390 --> 01:59:23,119
strongest when i was doing my

2909
01:59:27,109 --> 01:59:24,400
investigation of that

2910
01:59:28,950 --> 01:59:27,119
that was my strongest clue that what i'm

2911
01:59:29,510 --> 01:59:28,960
saying is absolutely true my conclusion

2912
01:59:32,470 --> 01:59:29,520
is true

2913
01:59:34,950 --> 01:59:32,480
that these are military drones very

2914
01:59:36,229 --> 01:59:34,960
close to the a24 drones by mcdonnell

2915
01:59:39,430 --> 01:59:36,239
douglas

2916
01:59:39,830 --> 01:59:39,440
drummond and these things are just that

2917
01:59:43,430 --> 01:59:39,840
they're

2918
01:59:45,830 --> 01:59:43,440
drones

2919
01:59:46,790 --> 01:59:45,840
uh for the us navy and they are

2920
01:59:49,830 --> 01:59:46,800
currently in use

2921
01:59:51,830 --> 01:59:49,840
and we have not even seen the full

2922
01:59:54,390 --> 01:59:51,840
capacity of what they can do

2923
01:59:56,149 --> 01:59:54,400
because i have very little doubt that

2924
01:59:56,790 --> 01:59:56,159
one of these that these tic tacs could

2925
01:59:59,430 --> 01:59:56,800
wipe out an

2926
02:00:00,390 --> 01:59:59,440
entire air force without even breaking a

2927
02:00:01,910 --> 02:00:00,400
sweat

2928
02:00:04,070 --> 02:00:01,920
that's that's what they don't want us to

2929
02:00:05,750 --> 02:00:04,080
find out let's take our break right here

2930
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2932
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02:04:34,470 --> 02:04:33,440
and tonight john de souza is back with

3031
02:04:37,270 --> 02:04:34,480
us and

3032
02:04:38,149 --> 02:04:37,280
john it's uh it's been too long i always

3033
02:04:41,830 --> 02:04:38,159
enjoy

3034
02:04:44,390 --> 02:04:41,840
our conversations and hanging out um but

3035
02:04:46,149 --> 02:04:44,400
i have to just i have to go have to go

3036
02:04:49,589 --> 02:04:46,159
to the x-files man

3037
02:04:53,750 --> 02:04:49,599
gotta do it uh the

3038
02:04:55,189 --> 02:04:53,760
um where uh where i was gonna kind of go

3039
02:04:58,709 --> 02:04:55,199
with this

3040
02:04:59,510 --> 02:04:58,719
is that i we we all love the x-files and

3041
02:05:03,189 --> 02:04:59,520
the covney

3042
02:05:06,390 --> 02:05:03,199
and and and jillian

3043
02:05:09,189 --> 02:05:06,400
is that is that a flavor of

3044
02:05:10,950 --> 02:05:09,199
how the fbi approached some of these

3045
02:05:13,910 --> 02:05:10,960
sensitive subjects

3046
02:05:15,189 --> 02:05:13,920
like it was it was done in a rogue

3047
02:05:21,350 --> 02:05:15,199
capacity

3048
02:05:23,109 --> 02:05:21,360
how would you describe it i would just

3049
02:05:26,149 --> 02:05:23,119
well we in the fbi

3050
02:05:30,870 --> 02:05:26,159
we have something a system uh

3051
02:05:32,870 --> 02:05:30,880
that is below official below official

3052
02:05:34,390 --> 02:05:32,880
out of our headquarters and so forth

3053
02:05:37,750 --> 02:05:34,400
it's called the subject matter

3054
02:05:39,109 --> 02:05:37,760
experts system basically and what it is

3055
02:05:42,709 --> 02:05:39,119
it just means

3056
02:05:44,870 --> 02:05:42,719
field agents who usually do not have a

3057
02:05:48,149 --> 02:05:44,880
connection to our headquarters

3058
02:05:49,030 --> 02:05:48,159
but they are subject matter experts out

3059
02:05:52,310 --> 02:05:49,040
in the field

3060
02:05:54,149 --> 02:05:52,320
in whatever area it is that they

3061
02:05:56,790 --> 02:05:54,159
that they cover and these can be very

3062
02:05:58,870 --> 02:05:56,800
esoteric areas sometimes

3063
02:05:59,990 --> 02:05:58,880
uh they can be areas that are really out

3064
02:06:03,589 --> 02:06:00,000
of the normal

3065
02:06:06,310 --> 02:06:03,599
uh and um such as oh

3066
02:06:07,109 --> 02:06:06,320
let me well i can give you an example uh

3067
02:06:09,910 --> 02:06:07,119
re in just

3068
02:06:11,830 --> 02:06:09,920
in the last few years uh very recent i

3069
02:06:14,870 --> 02:06:11,840
would say like probably within

3070
02:06:17,990 --> 02:06:14,880
the last like 10 years um we had

3071
02:06:18,470 --> 02:06:18,000
we had an fbi agent who became a subject

3072
02:06:21,830 --> 02:06:18,480
matter

3073
02:06:25,430 --> 02:06:21,840
expert in um what what we call

3074
02:06:25,990 --> 02:06:25,440
stolen valor medals uh stolen valor

3075
02:06:29,109 --> 02:06:26,000
medals

3076
02:06:31,189 --> 02:06:29,119
so he became an expert in

3077
02:06:32,310 --> 02:06:31,199
just and i guess it's because his family

3078
02:06:35,350 --> 02:06:32,320
was in the military

3079
02:06:37,109 --> 02:06:35,360
and he knew all the medals that uh that

3080
02:06:38,629 --> 02:06:37,119
high up officials would get like

3081
02:06:41,990 --> 02:06:38,639
generals and colonels

3082
02:06:43,750 --> 02:06:42,000
would get and so he just started making

3083
02:06:47,350 --> 02:06:43,760
a whole area out of

3084
02:06:50,629 --> 02:06:47,360
recognizing counterfeit military

3085
02:06:54,229 --> 02:06:50,639
medals and awards that people would

3086
02:06:56,470 --> 02:06:54,239
buy would buy i think usually from china

3087
02:06:58,069 --> 02:06:56,480
and they would just get these things and

3088
02:07:01,189 --> 02:06:58,079
put them on their uniforms

3089
02:07:01,990 --> 02:07:01,199
and claim to be you know great heroes

3090
02:07:04,790 --> 02:07:02,000
from world war

3091
02:07:05,510 --> 02:07:04,800
ii and stuff anyway this one fbi agent

3092
02:07:08,709 --> 02:07:05,520
became an

3093
02:07:10,149 --> 02:07:08,719
expert in recognizing these medals from

3094
02:07:12,069 --> 02:07:10,159
all over the world and

3095
02:07:13,750 --> 02:07:12,079
knowing when they were counterfeit even

3096
02:07:14,629 --> 02:07:13,760
if they had the serial numbers on them

3097
02:07:17,830 --> 02:07:14,639
you know like

3098
02:07:19,990 --> 02:07:17,840
like fbi badge number type thing but

3099
02:07:21,030 --> 02:07:20,000
even like that he was able to somehow

3100
02:07:23,990 --> 02:07:21,040
recognize

3101
02:07:25,510 --> 02:07:24,000
uh when these medals were uh were fake

3102
02:07:28,069 --> 02:07:25,520
and he made an entire

3103
02:07:28,950 --> 02:07:28,079
area out of it that became his subject

3104
02:07:32,149 --> 02:07:28,960
matter uh

3105
02:07:34,950 --> 02:07:32,159
expert area and he made it

3106
02:07:36,629 --> 02:07:34,960
he made uh he became the world expert on

3107
02:07:41,510 --> 02:07:36,639
that sort of thing where was your

3108
02:07:43,589 --> 02:07:41,520
huge area where was your uh home office

3109
02:07:45,109 --> 02:07:43,599
where did you uh where were you

3110
02:07:48,470 --> 02:07:45,119
stationed i have um

3111
02:07:51,430 --> 02:07:48,480
i've been uh stationed at washington dc

3112
02:07:52,870 --> 02:07:51,440
i've been stationed at new york city new

3113
02:07:56,149 --> 02:07:52,880
jersey also

3114
02:07:59,830 --> 02:07:56,159
new jersey as well and arizona as well

3115
02:08:00,709 --> 02:07:59,840
and over the years now um when it comes

3116
02:08:03,910 --> 02:08:00,719
to

3117
02:08:06,870 --> 02:08:03,920
uh the x files

3118
02:08:08,470 --> 02:08:06,880
is there now of course we have the show

3119
02:08:11,830 --> 02:08:08,480
the x-files

3120
02:08:15,510 --> 02:08:11,840
but how did the fbi labeled

3121
02:08:18,229 --> 02:08:15,520
uh paranormal and and ufo research

3122
02:08:20,069 --> 02:08:18,239
did they call them x-files too no they

3123
02:08:22,790 --> 02:08:20,079
don't not in real life they do not

3124
02:08:23,990 --> 02:08:22,800
uh they're just ordinary investigations

3125
02:08:28,390 --> 02:08:24,000
that take a turn

3126
02:08:31,189 --> 02:08:28,400
un

3127
02:08:33,270 --> 02:08:31,199
that no one's prepared for and so they

3128
02:08:36,629 --> 02:08:33,280
just have to go somewhere with them

3129
02:08:39,350 --> 02:08:36,639
and uh and sometimes when they were

3130
02:08:39,750 --> 02:08:39,360
paranormal in some or suspected of

3131
02:08:41,430 --> 02:08:39,760
having

3132
02:08:43,669 --> 02:08:41,440
other elements in them besides the

3133
02:08:44,550 --> 02:08:43,679
physical uh they would come my way at

3134
02:08:50,149 --> 02:08:44,560
that point

3135
02:08:53,109 --> 02:08:50,159
okay um so let's uh let's start here

3136
02:08:53,750 --> 02:08:53,119
i don't know what you can reveal but uh

3137
02:08:57,189 --> 02:08:53,760
for you

3138
02:09:00,390 --> 02:08:57,199
if you were going to give an example of

3139
02:09:01,910 --> 02:09:00,400
a ufo sighting case or a ufo case that

3140
02:09:04,149 --> 02:09:01,920
you handled

3141
02:09:06,790 --> 02:09:04,159
uh what was what was the one case that

3142
02:09:09,910 --> 02:09:06,800
you would want to talk about

3143
02:09:13,109 --> 02:09:09,920
jeez well you know i

3144
02:09:13,589 --> 02:09:13,119
why i can't talk about it directly uh

3145
02:09:16,310 --> 02:09:13,599
but

3146
02:09:18,149 --> 02:09:16,320
what i can do is point people to the

3147
02:09:22,870 --> 02:09:18,159
very first episode

3148
02:09:26,870 --> 02:09:22,880
of x-files back in 93 92 92-93

3149
02:09:30,870 --> 02:09:26,880
uh it was uh the the one that shows

3150
02:09:34,069 --> 02:09:30,880
where uh duchovny is just out in the

3151
02:09:34,709 --> 02:09:34,079
backyard of a military base with a bunch

3152
02:09:38,470 --> 02:09:34,719
of other

3153
02:09:41,350 --> 02:09:38,480
observing ufos

3154
02:09:42,629 --> 02:09:41,360
basically just coming in and going out

3155
02:09:44,870 --> 02:09:42,639
of this area

3156
02:09:46,470 --> 02:09:44,880
and they're just traveling slowly then

3157
02:09:50,149 --> 02:09:46,480
they're going fast

3158
02:09:52,870 --> 02:09:50,159
slowly and then

3159
02:09:53,510 --> 02:09:52,880
suddenly one of the ufos comes towards

3160
02:09:55,990 --> 02:09:53,520
him

3161
02:09:57,189 --> 02:09:56,000
and the crowd of hipsters that he was

3162
02:10:00,229 --> 02:09:57,199
standing with

3163
02:10:01,589 --> 02:10:00,239
and they just run away they just run

3164
02:10:04,950 --> 02:10:01,599
away in a panic

3165
02:10:07,990 --> 02:10:04,960
and then um duchovny

3166
02:10:11,270 --> 02:10:08,000
is uh is kidnapped

3167
02:10:12,069 --> 02:10:11,280
by men wearing all black men wearing all

3168
02:10:14,550 --> 02:10:12,079
black but they

3169
02:10:16,149 --> 02:10:14,560
don't seem like men in black they seem

3170
02:10:18,629 --> 02:10:16,159
more like soldiers

3171
02:10:20,229 --> 02:10:18,639
and so they bring him back well they

3172
02:10:21,990 --> 02:10:20,239
kidnap him and they bring him back to

3173
02:10:24,229 --> 02:10:22,000
the military base

3174
02:10:26,149 --> 02:10:24,239
except there's no soldiers around at the

3175
02:10:28,550 --> 02:10:26,159
military base for some reason

3176
02:10:29,510 --> 02:10:28,560
the regular soldiers appear to be gone

3177
02:10:33,030 --> 02:10:29,520
and

3178
02:10:34,709 --> 02:10:33,040
men who are dressed in but

3179
02:10:37,109 --> 02:10:34,719
they kind of look like special forces

3180
02:10:40,229 --> 02:10:37,119
type guys and they

3181
02:10:41,830 --> 02:10:40,239
bring the kuvni into an area they bring

3182
02:10:43,030 --> 02:10:41,840
to room shoot him up with sodium

3183
02:10:46,790 --> 02:10:43,040
pentathol

3184
02:10:49,910 --> 02:10:46,800
and they start asking questions about

3185
02:10:52,709 --> 02:10:49,920
as if he was with the

3186
02:10:54,550 --> 02:10:52,719
the ufos as if he knows something about

3187
02:10:56,790 --> 02:10:54,560
the ufos that he was

3188
02:10:58,709 --> 02:10:56,800
sitting there observing and they just

3189
02:11:01,189 --> 02:10:58,719
asked keep him there all night

3190
02:11:01,750 --> 02:11:01,199
and asking questions about it all night

3191
02:11:03,669 --> 02:11:01,760
and

3192
02:11:06,310 --> 02:11:03,679
he can't tell them anything because he

3193
02:11:10,550 --> 02:11:06,320
doesn't know anything about the ufos

3194
02:11:12,950 --> 02:11:10,560
and by morning time they release him

3195
02:11:14,790 --> 02:11:12,960
okay are you bringing this up because

3196
02:11:15,990 --> 02:11:14,800
you're saying that that was an actual

3197
02:11:20,120 --> 02:11:16,000
case

3198
02:11:22,830 --> 02:11:20,130
agent was that you

3199
02:11:24,069 --> 02:11:22,840
[Music]

3200
02:11:27,750 --> 02:11:24,079
uh

3201
02:11:32,470 --> 02:11:27,760
it was it was a real fbi agent

3202
02:11:37,189 --> 02:11:35,350
what i have to tell you is this if if no

3203
02:11:40,149 --> 02:11:37,199
i love your hesitation

3204
02:11:41,270 --> 02:11:40,159
the audience can't see what i'm seeing

3205
02:11:44,310 --> 02:11:41,280
here

3206
02:11:47,510 --> 02:11:44,320
say

3207
02:11:50,709 --> 02:11:47,520
be illegal but

3208
02:11:52,229 --> 02:11:50,719
chris carter had was perfectly fine to

3209
02:11:55,109 --> 02:11:52,239
take something that happened

3210
02:11:57,270 --> 02:11:55,119
and show it as fiction how did he get

3211
02:11:59,669 --> 02:11:57,280
access to the files

3212
02:12:00,310 --> 02:11:59,679
well i have my opinion on that my

3213
02:12:03,350 --> 02:12:00,320
opinion

3214
02:12:06,870 --> 02:12:03,360
is that i had a uh

3215
02:12:07,270 --> 02:12:06,880
i had a an otb book which fbi agents

3216
02:12:09,350 --> 02:12:07,280
keep

3217
02:12:10,950 --> 02:12:09,360
when they have things that they can't

3218
02:12:13,990 --> 02:12:10,960
put into fbi files

3219
02:12:14,870 --> 02:12:14,000
it's an off the books notebook where we

3220
02:12:17,109 --> 02:12:14,880
take notes

3221
02:12:18,390 --> 02:12:17,119
and we write everything that happened

3222
02:12:20,470 --> 02:12:18,400
because we have certain things that

3223
02:12:23,990 --> 02:12:20,480
can't go into fbi files

3224
02:12:27,030 --> 02:12:24,000
that we deal with and my otb book was

3225
02:12:27,910 --> 02:12:27,040
taken from me by some fbi agents who

3226
02:12:32,550 --> 02:12:27,920
retired

3227
02:12:35,589 --> 02:12:32,560
television consultants

3228
02:12:37,270 --> 02:12:35,599
television and movie consultants in los

3229
02:12:39,350 --> 02:12:37,280
angeles hollywood

3230
02:12:41,030 --> 02:12:39,360
that's where they went and they took my

3231
02:12:43,430 --> 02:12:41,040
book my otb book

3232
02:12:44,950 --> 02:12:43,440
and that book had a lot of incredible

3233
02:12:48,950 --> 02:12:44,960
material in it

3234
02:12:51,990 --> 02:12:48,960
and now by now i can't say for sure

3235
02:12:54,950 --> 02:12:52,000
what occurred but my suspicion

3236
02:12:57,270 --> 02:12:54,960
uh based on what i saw in the first

3237
02:12:59,990 --> 02:12:57,280
season and what my fbi bosses saw

3238
02:13:01,510 --> 02:13:00,000
in the first season of the x-files was

3239
02:13:03,189 --> 02:13:01,520
they were very alarmed

3240
02:13:04,950 --> 02:13:03,199
because they knew the cases that had

3241
02:13:05,990 --> 02:13:04,960
gone down they knew which cases were

3242
02:13:08,709 --> 02:13:06,000
going on

3243
02:13:09,830 --> 02:13:08,719
and they called up chris carter and they

3244
02:13:11,589 --> 02:13:09,840
told chris carter

3245
02:13:12,870 --> 02:13:11,599
they were going to shut down the x-files

3246
02:13:13,350 --> 02:13:12,880
after the first season they were going

3247
02:13:21,750 --> 02:13:13,360
to

3248
02:13:24,310 --> 02:13:21,760
gave him those case files

3249
02:13:24,790 --> 02:13:24,320
because of course they suspected that i

3250
02:13:27,669 --> 02:13:24,800
did

3251
02:13:28,709 --> 02:13:27,679
they thought i gave him my case which is

3252
02:13:31,830 --> 02:13:28,719
highly illegal

3253
02:13:34,790 --> 02:13:31,840
extremely legal for me to do and so

3254
02:13:36,550 --> 02:13:34,800
i um i was able to tell them that no i

3255
02:13:38,870 --> 02:13:36,560
did not give him any materials

3256
02:13:41,030 --> 02:13:38,880
chris carter said the same thing he said

3257
02:13:43,350 --> 02:13:41,040
i did not give him any materials

3258
02:13:45,350 --> 02:13:43,360
and he said to them that if they will

3259
02:13:46,709 --> 02:13:45,360
give him the details of which episodes

3260
02:13:49,910 --> 02:13:46,719
they're talking about

3261
02:13:51,589 --> 02:13:49,920
and he will track down uh where that

3262
02:13:54,870 --> 02:13:51,599
information came from

3263
02:13:55,270 --> 02:13:54,880
uh and at that point our bosses uh they

3264
02:13:57,669 --> 02:13:55,280
uh

3265
02:13:59,910 --> 02:13:57,679
said okay no never mind we can't give

3266
02:14:02,069 --> 02:13:59,920
you any more details on that

3267
02:14:03,430 --> 02:14:02,079
that could actually put them in more

3268
02:14:05,910 --> 02:14:03,440
trouble uh

3269
02:14:07,430 --> 02:14:05,920
than what they already had so they just

3270
02:14:09,589 --> 02:14:07,440
basically just told chris carter

3271
02:14:10,629 --> 02:14:09,599
okay you can go on with your show but

3272
02:14:12,950 --> 02:14:10,639
you have to get

3273
02:14:14,069 --> 02:14:12,960
information from different places than

3274
02:14:15,910 --> 02:14:14,079
wherever you did

3275
02:14:17,350 --> 02:14:15,920
and that was it you know that was how

3276
02:14:19,350 --> 02:14:17,360
that went down in

3277
02:14:20,870 --> 02:14:19,360
in that in that episode of the x-files

3278
02:14:21,830 --> 02:14:20,880
the first episode that you're talking

3279
02:14:24,950 --> 02:14:21,840
about

3280
02:14:29,510 --> 02:14:24,960
uh did chris accurately

3281
02:14:33,189 --> 02:14:29,520
depict how the incident went down

3282
02:14:35,990 --> 02:14:33,199
embarrassingly so yes extremely

3283
02:14:37,350 --> 02:14:36,000
embarrassingly so yes he did it was very

3284
02:14:39,189 --> 02:14:37,360
it was very accurate

3285
02:14:40,870 --> 02:14:39,199
to how it actually went down in real

3286
02:14:44,390 --> 02:14:40,880
life so did you

3287
02:14:48,709 --> 02:14:44,400
feel um is there a certain

3288
02:14:52,870 --> 02:14:48,719
um civil liberty that was

3289
02:14:54,310 --> 02:14:52,880
uh you know where

3290
02:14:55,990 --> 02:14:54,320
you're in a position where this

3291
02:14:56,950 --> 02:14:56,000
shouldn't go down inside of the united

3292
02:14:59,990 --> 02:14:56,960
states

3293
02:15:00,470 --> 02:15:00,000
did you feel violated in in that respect

3294
02:15:02,950 --> 02:15:00,480
by

3295
02:15:04,149 --> 02:15:02,960
getting abducted or kidnapped yeah

3296
02:15:06,149 --> 02:15:04,159
absolutely

3297
02:15:08,229 --> 02:15:06,159
and uh and it was not the last time that

3298
02:15:11,030 --> 02:15:08,239
i experienced something like that

3299
02:15:11,430 --> 02:15:11,040
and yes it was it was very uh it was

3300
02:15:13,350 --> 02:15:11,440
very

3301
02:15:15,910 --> 02:15:13,360
uh it was more embarrassing than

3302
02:15:17,510 --> 02:15:15,920
anything else and very disturbing

3303
02:15:19,830 --> 02:15:17,520
and it's not something that should

3304
02:15:21,510 --> 02:15:19,840
should ever happen or should ever go

3305
02:15:25,109 --> 02:15:21,520
down

3306
02:15:27,189 --> 02:15:25,119
and unfortunately um were these special

3307
02:15:29,350 --> 02:15:27,199
forces did they have insignias do they

3308
02:15:31,270 --> 02:15:29,360
have any identifications on them

3309
02:15:32,390 --> 02:15:31,280
no they were clean and that's it that's

3310
02:15:35,430 --> 02:15:32,400
also illegal

3311
02:15:36,709 --> 02:15:35,440
right yeah oh yeah i'm sure it is it's

3312
02:15:38,629 --> 02:15:36,719
also illegal for

3313
02:15:40,950 --> 02:15:38,639
military personnel not to be in control

3314
02:15:43,109 --> 02:15:40,960
of their own military base as well

3315
02:15:44,790 --> 02:15:43,119
uh so yeah there was a lot of there's a

3316
02:15:47,750 --> 02:15:44,800
lot of stuff that went down

3317
02:15:48,709 --> 02:15:47,760
that had to do with uh globalist

3318
02:15:51,750 --> 02:15:48,719
authorities

3319
02:15:53,510 --> 02:15:51,760
let's put it that way uh people who

3320
02:15:54,790 --> 02:15:53,520
who basically would take over the

3321
02:15:57,510 --> 02:15:54,800
authority of

3322
02:15:58,550 --> 02:15:57,520
the national authority in those areas a

3323
02:16:02,709 --> 02:15:58,560
lot of that went on

3324
02:16:07,189 --> 02:16:02,719
so was this the catalyst for you

3325
02:16:09,189 --> 02:16:07,199
to be that specialist inside of the fbi

3326
02:16:10,790 --> 02:16:09,199
no no that was not the catalyst the

3327
02:16:12,790 --> 02:16:10,800
telus was uh

3328
02:16:14,229 --> 02:16:12,800
what i did when i was recruited to the

3329
02:16:16,790 --> 02:16:14,239
fbi uh

3330
02:16:18,069 --> 02:16:16,800
which is that i went around when i was

3331
02:16:21,669 --> 02:16:18,079
at the academy

3332
02:16:24,470 --> 02:16:21,679
i actually went and asked uh some

3333
02:16:25,910 --> 02:16:24,480
did my own investigation of of this case

3334
02:16:28,990 --> 02:16:25,920
that occurred

3335
02:16:30,870 --> 02:16:29,000
at the fbi called the miami shootout in

3336
02:16:34,230 --> 02:16:30,880
1985 i think

3337
02:16:36,309 --> 02:16:34,240
i think was 1985. uh and i didn't

3338
02:16:37,830 --> 02:16:36,319
i kind of did a little investigation of

3339
02:16:40,389 --> 02:16:37,840
that because i had some

3340
02:16:41,190 --> 02:16:40,399
deputies there that were from the miami

3341
02:16:44,070 --> 02:16:41,200
dade area

3342
02:16:46,150 --> 02:16:44,080
where it occurred was that the cocaine

3343
02:16:49,349 --> 02:16:46,160
cowboy shootout at the mall

3344
02:16:51,429 --> 02:16:49,359
yeah i it it was called the

3345
02:16:53,270 --> 02:16:51,439
it's called the miami shootout the miami

3346
02:16:55,270 --> 02:16:53,280
massacre yes yeah it was

3347
02:16:57,110 --> 02:16:55,280
it was absolutely insane in the parking

3348
02:16:59,270 --> 02:16:57,120
lot right yes that's it

3349
02:17:01,349 --> 02:16:59,280
that's the one right uh but uh what

3350
02:17:03,110 --> 02:17:01,359
occurred there was that uh we had these

3351
02:17:03,910 --> 02:17:03,120
uh criminals these two criminals maddox

3352
02:17:05,589 --> 02:17:03,920
and platt

3353
02:17:07,990 --> 02:17:05,599
who were shot to hell i mean they were

3354
02:17:09,349 --> 02:17:08,000
shot fatally uh one of them was shot

3355
02:17:12,629 --> 02:17:09,359
like through the aorta

3356
02:17:14,150 --> 02:17:12,639
of the heart and uh they just they just

3357
02:17:15,990 --> 02:17:14,160
got up and they just came around the

3358
02:17:16,709 --> 02:17:16,000
parking lot in the semicircle just

3359
02:17:18,870 --> 02:17:16,719
shooting

3360
02:17:19,910 --> 02:17:18,880
and they killed a couple of fbi agents

3361
02:17:22,230 --> 02:17:19,920
and come and

3362
02:17:24,389 --> 02:17:22,240
shot many many more and it was like a

3363
02:17:27,750 --> 02:17:24,399
terminator type situation

3364
02:17:27,990 --> 02:17:27,760
and then and they just they did this and

3365
02:17:33,509 --> 02:17:28,000
they

3366
02:17:36,469 --> 02:17:33,519
of the fbi

3367
02:17:37,589 --> 02:17:36,479
agents who had one arm shattered by a

3368
02:17:39,589 --> 02:17:37,599
shotgun shell i mean

3369
02:17:41,589 --> 02:17:39,599
his arm was blown the hell but he used

3370
02:17:44,389 --> 02:17:41,599
the other arm to get a shotgun

3371
02:17:46,230 --> 02:17:44,399
and uh he just as they were turned

3372
02:17:48,950 --> 02:17:46,240
starting up the car to leave

3373
02:17:50,389 --> 02:17:48,960
he popped up and he shot them both right

3374
02:17:52,150 --> 02:17:50,399
through the uh

3375
02:17:53,910 --> 02:17:52,160
right through the place in the neck that

3376
02:17:55,669 --> 02:17:53,920
connects to the spinal cord

3377
02:17:57,509 --> 02:17:55,679
and that's what finally stopped them

3378
02:17:59,509 --> 02:17:57,519
nothing else was stopping them

3379
02:18:01,509 --> 02:17:59,519
uh not all the other places that they

3380
02:18:04,709 --> 02:18:01,519
shot them anyway that was the that's a

3381
02:18:06,629 --> 02:18:04,719
famous um but after that occurred

3382
02:18:07,830 --> 02:18:06,639
uh after that investigation occurred

3383
02:18:10,709 --> 02:18:07,840
what happened was

3384
02:18:12,629 --> 02:18:10,719
uh there was a lot of crying out for how

3385
02:18:14,150 --> 02:18:12,639
were these guys able to do what they did

3386
02:18:15,750 --> 02:18:14,160
they didn't have any body armor they

3387
02:18:19,509 --> 02:18:15,760
were shot they were both shot

3388
02:18:21,750 --> 02:18:19,519
numerous numerous times by fbi agents um

3389
02:18:23,669 --> 02:18:21,760
and so how did they get up and just

3390
02:18:26,150 --> 02:18:23,679
start doing the terminator thing

3391
02:18:27,429 --> 02:18:26,160
right through that parking lot and at

3392
02:18:29,349 --> 02:18:27,439
the time

3393
02:18:31,509 --> 02:18:29,359
they did they did the tests on their

3394
02:18:31,910 --> 02:18:31,519
blood they didn't have anything in their

3395
02:18:33,910 --> 02:18:31,920
blood

3396
02:18:35,830 --> 02:18:33,920
except a little bit a little bit of beer

3397
02:18:38,469 --> 02:18:35,840
and nicotine that's it

3398
02:18:38,950 --> 02:18:38,479
they had nothing else so there was no

3399
02:18:42,469 --> 02:18:38,960
drugs

3400
02:18:43,190 --> 02:18:42,479
there was no pcp there was no uh cocaine

3401
02:18:46,389 --> 02:18:43,200
nothing

3402
02:18:47,990 --> 02:18:46,399
that could explain what they did so when

3403
02:18:50,309 --> 02:18:48,000
i got to the academy

3404
02:18:52,549 --> 02:18:50,319
and that that incident was one of the

3405
02:18:55,030 --> 02:18:52,559
ones that inspired me to join the fbi

3406
02:18:56,230 --> 02:18:55,040
because it was the acts of heroism of

3407
02:18:58,150 --> 02:18:56,240
that particular

3408
02:18:59,990 --> 02:18:58,160
fbi agent who was able to finally stop

3409
02:19:02,549 --> 02:19:00,000
those guys

3410
02:19:04,389 --> 02:19:02,559
and uh and he did it by emptying that

3411
02:19:07,349 --> 02:19:04,399
shotgun at them and then emptying

3412
02:19:08,870 --> 02:19:07,359
his sidearm as well at them at the last

3413
02:19:09,750 --> 02:19:08,880
possible moment as they were trying to

3414
02:19:13,030 --> 02:19:09,760
get out

3415
02:19:15,349 --> 02:19:13,040
drive away and uh so it was a

3416
02:19:16,709 --> 02:19:15,359
tremendous incident of heroism at the

3417
02:19:18,709 --> 02:19:16,719
fbi so you go

3418
02:19:21,429 --> 02:19:18,719
well okay so you go to the academy you

3419
02:19:24,950 --> 02:19:21,439
know about this you know about

3420
02:19:28,070 --> 02:19:24,960
some type of super human aspect

3421
02:19:30,150 --> 02:19:28,080
uh that is is playing out here and you

3422
02:19:30,950 --> 02:19:30,160
wanted to investigate that and you

3423
02:19:33,509 --> 02:19:30,960
brought this up

3424
02:19:35,349 --> 02:19:33,519
at the academy i brought up with a

3425
02:19:36,790 --> 02:19:35,359
couple of deputies that actually uh

3426
02:19:38,309 --> 02:19:36,800
worked the case

3427
02:19:40,469 --> 02:19:38,319
and they were able to tell me that they

3428
02:19:43,830 --> 02:19:40,479
did uh searches for through those

3429
02:19:46,309 --> 02:19:43,840
through the uh the places the residences

3430
02:19:47,429 --> 02:19:46,319
of those guys maddox and platt who were

3431
02:19:49,270 --> 02:19:47,439
involved

3432
02:19:50,389 --> 02:19:49,280
who did these things and they found they

3433
02:19:52,389 --> 02:19:50,399
were looking of course they were looking

3434
02:19:55,190 --> 02:19:52,399
for drugs i mean that was their big

3435
02:19:56,070 --> 02:19:55,200
mandate to find drugs they found no

3436
02:19:58,870 --> 02:19:56,080
drugs at all

3437
02:19:59,510 --> 02:19:58,880
and they were amazed and what they did

3438
02:20:02,230 --> 02:19:59,520
find was

3439
02:20:02,950 --> 02:20:02,240
in one of their homes they found an

3440
02:20:07,830 --> 02:20:02,960
altar

3441
02:20:11,190 --> 02:20:07,840
the norse scots

3442
02:20:12,630 --> 02:20:11,200
the norse gods with runes and these

3443
02:20:16,070 --> 02:20:12,640
types of

3444
02:20:16,790 --> 02:20:16,080
sort of designs that were from that

3445
02:20:18,870 --> 02:20:16,800
period

3446
02:20:19,910 --> 02:20:18,880
and they had before they went out to

3447
02:20:22,309 --> 02:20:19,920
their final

3448
02:20:23,510 --> 02:20:22,319
bank robbery uh where they were caught

3449
02:20:27,110 --> 02:20:23,520
they actually

3450
02:20:30,150 --> 02:20:27,120
had incense that had been burned to loki

3451
02:20:33,429 --> 02:20:30,160
lokai the monkey right

3452
02:20:36,870 --> 02:20:33,439
god of trickery and something else and

3453
02:20:38,710 --> 02:20:36,880
so when i found that out i told the

3454
02:20:39,910 --> 02:20:38,720
i told deputy that's it that's how they

3455
02:20:41,670 --> 02:20:39,920
did what they did

3456
02:20:44,710 --> 02:20:41,680
they got some kind of and i've been told

3457
02:20:48,630 --> 02:20:44,720
they got some kind of berserker spirit

3458
02:20:51,429 --> 02:20:48,640
or some kind of trickery spirit from

3459
02:20:51,990 --> 02:20:51,439
lokai the god that they were sacrificing

3460
02:20:55,030 --> 02:20:52,000
to

3461
02:20:56,630 --> 02:20:55,040
and that is what animated them in such

3462
02:21:00,230 --> 02:20:56,640
an extraordinary way

3463
02:21:02,389 --> 02:21:00,240
to do the things that they did and so

3464
02:21:03,670 --> 02:21:02,399
anyway but the fact that i was asking

3465
02:21:05,830 --> 02:21:03,680
questions about that came to the

3466
02:21:06,710 --> 02:21:05,840
attention of the fbi brass who was very

3467
02:21:09,830 --> 02:21:06,720
not happy

3468
02:21:12,070 --> 02:21:09,840
and uh they

3469
02:21:13,830 --> 02:21:12,080
told me as a as a result of that they

3470
02:21:14,630 --> 02:21:13,840
suspected me of being a new york times

3471
02:21:16,870 --> 02:21:14,640
reporter

3472
02:21:18,389 --> 02:21:16,880
or something undercover and that i would

3473
02:21:21,110 --> 02:21:18,399
never graduate the academy

3474
02:21:23,030 --> 02:21:21,120
under no matter what and then when i did

3475
02:21:24,710 --> 02:21:23,040
graduate the academy despite all their

3476
02:21:26,550 --> 02:21:24,720
efforts to the contrary

3477
02:21:27,990 --> 02:21:26,560
they were very upset with that they

3478
02:21:30,150 --> 02:21:28,000
called my first office

3479
02:21:31,590 --> 02:21:30,160
and said to my first office this guy

3480
02:21:32,950 --> 02:21:31,600
likes paranormal cases

3481
02:21:35,510 --> 02:21:32,960
let's make sure we give him a lot of

3482
02:21:37,990 --> 02:21:35,520
those uh to keep him busy

3483
02:21:38,950 --> 02:21:38,000
and uh make him happy that way and it

3484
02:21:42,550 --> 02:21:38,960
was not

3485
02:21:45,349 --> 02:21:42,560
and they said that sarcastically that's

3486
02:21:46,389 --> 02:21:45,359
that is how i got started with the

3487
02:21:49,510 --> 02:21:46,399
paranormal case

3488
02:21:51,910 --> 02:21:49,520
now you um i don't want to dive too

3489
02:21:56,150 --> 02:21:51,920
deeply into this but you did have

3490
02:21:59,270 --> 02:21:56,160
um some e.t contact uh

3491
02:22:02,550 --> 02:21:59,280
a lot of it uh prior to uh

3492
02:22:05,750 --> 02:22:02,560
joining the fbi um when

3493
02:22:07,429 --> 02:22:05,760
when you uh finally graduate

3494
02:22:09,590 --> 02:22:07,439
and now you're placed in the field

3495
02:22:12,710 --> 02:22:09,600
office what do you

3496
02:22:15,590 --> 02:22:12,720
what do you do with you know

3497
02:22:16,710 --> 02:22:15,600
do you ask uf you know do you bring it

3498
02:22:19,590 --> 02:22:16,720
up in the office

3499
02:22:20,309 --> 02:22:19,600
how do you poke around in files how do

3500
02:22:23,510 --> 02:22:20,319
you

3501
02:22:26,389 --> 02:22:23,520
without

3502
02:22:28,309 --> 02:22:26,399
you know coming off you know like fox

3503
02:22:31,510 --> 02:22:28,319
mulder for instance

3504
02:22:34,389 --> 02:22:31,520
no well first of all everybody knows

3505
02:22:35,190 --> 02:22:34,399
about what my subject matter expertise

3506
02:22:37,030 --> 02:22:35,200
is because

3507
02:22:38,550 --> 02:22:37,040
as soon as you go to the office they do

3508
02:22:39,429 --> 02:22:38,560
what's called assignment of control

3509
02:22:42,550 --> 02:22:39,439
files

3510
02:22:43,270 --> 02:22:42,560
so the first thing i got was all of

3511
02:22:46,070 --> 02:22:43,280
these uh

3512
02:22:47,590 --> 02:22:46,080
files that are very important that have

3513
02:22:50,630 --> 02:22:47,600
to do with ufos

3514
02:22:53,750 --> 02:22:50,640
that are that have to be monitored

3515
02:22:55,190 --> 02:22:53,760
uh so those get assigned to me uh that's

3516
02:22:58,230 --> 02:22:55,200
how i first got the

3517
02:23:00,550 --> 02:22:58,240
smoking gun memo uh that i talk about

3518
02:23:01,270 --> 02:23:00,560
in my book the extra dimensionals right

3519
02:23:03,990 --> 02:23:01,280
it is the

3520
02:23:05,030 --> 02:23:04,000
it's the memorandum from an fbi agent

3521
02:23:10,790 --> 02:23:05,040
back in the

3522
02:23:11,750 --> 02:23:10,800
that uh what that says he had an

3523
02:23:14,790 --> 02:23:11,760
informant

3524
02:23:16,790 --> 02:23:14,800
that uh was an alien visitor basically

3525
02:23:19,190 --> 02:23:16,800
he says the word super normal

3526
02:23:20,150 --> 02:23:19,200
and his informant tell them the whole

3527
02:23:21,830 --> 02:23:20,160
deal on

3528
02:23:23,429 --> 02:23:21,840
on alien visitors that they're not

3529
02:23:25,990 --> 02:23:23,439
physical that they're

3530
02:23:26,710 --> 02:23:26,000
traveling here uh that the ufos are

3531
02:23:29,190 --> 02:23:26,720
empty

3532
02:23:30,950 --> 02:23:29,200
there's nobody in the ufos that the ufos

3533
02:23:32,790 --> 02:23:30,960
travel with alien visitors

3534
02:23:33,990 --> 02:23:32,800
and they both come here from other

3535
02:23:40,469 --> 02:23:34,000
dimensions

3536
02:23:42,389 --> 02:23:40,479
physical and that based on that is why i

3537
02:23:43,910 --> 02:23:42,399
named my book the extra dimensionals

3538
02:23:45,990 --> 02:23:43,920
because of that memo

3539
02:23:48,710 --> 02:23:46,000
and what the fbi taught me on my first

3540
02:23:51,270 --> 02:23:48,720
day when i received that control file

3541
02:23:52,309 --> 02:23:51,280
and i got that memo well that's that's

3542
02:23:55,670 --> 02:23:52,319
how it started

3543
02:23:56,630 --> 02:23:55,680
now you said these were cases that

3544
02:24:00,309 --> 02:23:56,640
needed to be

3545
02:24:02,710 --> 02:24:00,319
monitored what does that mean it means

3546
02:24:05,270 --> 02:24:02,720
uh cases that are so important

3547
02:24:06,550 --> 02:24:05,280
that even though they're not active

3548
02:24:09,990 --> 02:24:06,560
investigations

3549
02:24:12,790 --> 02:24:10,000
because

3550
02:24:13,590 --> 02:24:12,800
this happened like let's say roswell uh

3551
02:24:16,550 --> 02:24:13,600
roswell

3552
02:24:18,710 --> 02:24:16,560
you know happened in 1947 supposedly we

3553
02:24:21,510 --> 02:24:18,720
got this crashed ufo we got this

3554
02:24:22,469 --> 02:24:21,520
uh we got this supposed alien bodies

3555
02:24:25,750 --> 02:24:22,479
supposedly

3556
02:24:28,950 --> 02:24:25,760
but right now we're not having any um

3557
02:24:30,469 --> 02:24:28,960
any active investigation you know 30

3558
02:24:33,190 --> 02:24:30,479
years 40 years later

3559
02:24:34,630 --> 02:24:33,200
uh into this however the roswell file

3560
02:24:35,510 --> 02:24:34,640
still needs to be monitored and

3561
02:24:38,550 --> 02:24:35,520
controlled

3562
02:24:41,190 --> 02:24:38,560
by somebody in case somebody pops up

3563
02:24:41,990 --> 02:24:41,200
somewhere around the country saying uh

3564
02:24:43,990 --> 02:24:42,000
saying uh

3565
02:24:45,030 --> 02:24:44,000
hey everybody i've got a bunch of

3566
02:24:48,630 --> 02:24:45,040
materials

3567
02:24:51,030 --> 02:24:48,640
that came from roswell in 1947

3568
02:24:52,790 --> 02:24:51,040
and i'm gonna make it available to jimmy

3569
02:24:54,790 --> 02:24:52,800
church so that he can come here

3570
02:24:56,309 --> 02:24:54,800
and he can video the video this and put

3571
02:24:59,429 --> 02:24:56,319
it on his radio show

3572
02:25:01,670 --> 02:24:59,439
and so if that happens there's some fbi

3573
02:25:04,230 --> 02:25:01,680
agent that's monitoring that file

3574
02:25:06,230 --> 02:25:04,240
so that when that happens he can say hey

3575
02:25:08,630 --> 02:25:06,240
i gotta talk to this guy first

3576
02:25:10,150 --> 02:25:08,640
uh before jimmy church gets there and

3577
02:25:12,309 --> 02:25:10,160
we're gonna see what's what

3578
02:25:13,510 --> 02:25:12,319
so that's uh knock from the feds another

3579
02:25:14,950 --> 02:25:13,520
knockout from the feds

3580
02:25:16,550 --> 02:25:14,960
yes if something like that would happen

3581
02:25:19,910 --> 02:25:16,560
uh when did you uh retire

3582
02:25:22,389 --> 02:25:19,920
what year uh 2013.

3583
02:25:24,550 --> 02:25:22,399
2013. so i started i started fade to

3584
02:25:26,710 --> 02:25:24,560
black in 2013.

3585
02:25:27,750 --> 02:25:26,720
so you wouldn't have heard anything

3586
02:25:31,030 --> 02:25:27,760
about me then

3587
02:25:33,349 --> 02:25:31,040
i needed you to leave like in 2015.

3588
02:25:34,950 --> 02:25:33,359
so i could bring my your file yeah yeah

3589
02:25:37,910 --> 02:25:34,960
i'm just i'm just wondering

3590
02:25:39,750 --> 02:25:37,920
uh uh you know how cool it is you know

3591
02:25:41,429 --> 02:25:39,760
how detailed the file is

3592
02:25:43,670 --> 02:25:41,439
you know it's got the bad stuff but i

3593
02:25:47,429 --> 02:25:43,680
hope it has the good stuff too

3594
02:25:50,710 --> 02:25:47,439
um but going back to this so

3595
02:25:51,670 --> 02:25:50,720
like with american airlines 2292 fresh

3596
02:25:55,429 --> 02:25:51,680
case boom

3597
02:25:58,870 --> 02:25:55,439
sighting pilots right did you get

3598
02:26:00,230 --> 02:25:58,880
a case like that citing just happened

3599
02:26:03,990 --> 02:26:00,240
here's the file

3600
02:26:04,630 --> 02:26:04,000
and now it's go time yes yes we would

3601
02:26:06,870 --> 02:26:04,640
get

3602
02:26:07,750 --> 02:26:06,880
uh files of that of that sort of that

3603
02:26:10,630 --> 02:26:07,760
nature

3604
02:26:11,510 --> 02:26:10,640
and usually they would be concurrent

3605
02:26:14,150 --> 02:26:11,520
with the

3606
02:26:15,270 --> 02:26:14,160
air force air force investigation file

3607
02:26:17,590 --> 02:26:15,280
as well

3608
02:26:18,309 --> 02:26:17,600
and we would be told you know this is

3609
02:26:23,110 --> 02:26:18,319
the

3610
02:26:24,150 --> 02:26:23,120
time

3611
02:26:26,469 --> 02:26:24,160
just in case you need to share

3612
02:26:27,830 --> 02:26:26,479
information talk to them and uh get

3613
02:26:30,630 --> 02:26:27,840
things going that way

3614
02:26:32,309 --> 02:26:30,640
now um uh i wanna say okay can i get you

3615
02:26:36,710 --> 02:26:32,319
to stay for overtime

3616
02:26:39,910 --> 02:26:36,720
oh sure okay i'm i'm not ready to end

3617
02:26:42,550 --> 02:26:39,920
while you were at uh

3618
02:26:44,630 --> 02:26:42,560
while you were in the fbi especially

3619
02:26:47,830 --> 02:26:44,640
when you were in washington dc

3620
02:26:50,950 --> 02:26:47,840
but did you hear anything about a

3621
02:26:54,230 --> 02:26:50,960
tip or a secret pentagon

3622
02:26:57,510 --> 02:26:54,240
program that was investigating ufos did

3623
02:26:59,750 --> 02:26:57,520
any of that come to light at the fbi

3624
02:27:00,710 --> 02:26:59,760
no no i never heard about anything like

3625
02:27:13,270 --> 02:27:00,720
that

3626
02:27:16,309 --> 02:27:13,280
and uh not at all okay uh

3627
02:27:16,790 --> 02:27:16,319
that's i i find that interesting um and

3628
02:27:21,030 --> 02:27:16,800
very

3629
02:27:23,590 --> 02:27:21,040
believable by the way but when you say

3630
02:27:24,389 --> 02:27:23,600
here are you know the the here's the air

3631
02:27:27,110 --> 02:27:24,399
force's

3632
02:27:28,630 --> 02:27:27,120
uh concurrent investigation that's going

3633
02:27:31,990 --> 02:27:28,640
on at the same time

3634
02:27:32,710 --> 02:27:32,000
what uh who at the air force did the air

3635
02:27:36,070 --> 02:27:32,720
force have

3636
02:27:39,830 --> 02:27:36,080
was it af uh you know af uh

3637
02:27:43,030 --> 02:27:39,840
uh if osi yeah was it afosi

3638
02:27:45,990 --> 02:27:43,040
yes yes it would be um and and

3639
02:27:47,270 --> 02:27:46,000
did you did you communicate with afosi

3640
02:27:50,469 --> 02:27:47,280
directly

3641
02:27:52,550 --> 02:27:50,479
sure we will always do that and

3642
02:27:55,110 --> 02:27:52,560
i find this really interesting were they

3643
02:27:58,309 --> 02:27:55,120
open uh without

3644
02:28:01,670 --> 02:27:58,319
uh with an e.t

3645
02:28:04,870 --> 02:28:01,680
component to the discussion right

3646
02:28:08,389 --> 02:28:04,880
e.t ufos this is not of this

3647
02:28:14,550 --> 02:28:08,399
earth discussion or was it always

3648
02:28:18,309 --> 02:28:16,070
no they would always be open to that

3649
02:28:20,870 --> 02:28:18,319
sort of discussion uh

3650
02:28:21,349 --> 02:28:20,880
but it would be in different terminology

3651
02:28:23,910 --> 02:28:21,359
you know

3652
02:28:24,870 --> 02:28:23,920
like uh like could it be an unknown

3653
02:28:26,950 --> 02:28:24,880
quantity

3654
02:28:28,309 --> 02:28:26,960
you know that would be our that would be

3655
02:28:32,309 --> 02:28:28,319
our code

3656
02:28:35,190 --> 02:28:32,319
for this is a non-terrestrial ufo

3657
02:28:36,790 --> 02:28:35,200
something that's an unknown quantity or

3658
02:28:39,270 --> 02:28:36,800
undefinable quantity

3659
02:28:43,510 --> 02:28:39,280
something like that things like that

3660
02:28:46,710 --> 02:28:43,520
were you exposed to videos and images

3661
02:28:49,750 --> 02:28:46,720
yes always okay so

3662
02:28:51,110 --> 02:28:49,760
don't just stop there oh what what did

3663
02:28:54,630 --> 02:28:51,120
you see

3664
02:28:57,590 --> 02:28:54,640
oh um all kinds of things uh

3665
02:28:58,389 --> 02:28:57,600
uh things that are things that are even

3666
02:29:01,750 --> 02:28:58,399
available

3667
02:29:02,950 --> 02:29:01,760
to people today uh through uh public

3668
02:29:07,030 --> 02:29:02,960
databases

3669
02:29:10,070 --> 02:29:07,040
i mean we would always show each other

3670
02:29:13,349 --> 02:29:10,080
videos that are that are known

3671
02:29:16,389 --> 02:29:13,359
uh to people as well uh things like uh

3672
02:29:19,190 --> 02:29:16,399
ufos uh in space you know

3673
02:29:20,309 --> 02:29:19,200
ufos in space uh things that are close

3674
02:29:23,270 --> 02:29:20,319
to the iss

3675
02:29:25,190 --> 02:29:23,280
you know space station uh that just

3676
02:29:27,429 --> 02:29:25,200
nobody could describe

3677
02:29:28,309 --> 02:29:27,439
what in the world they were uh things

3678
02:29:30,710 --> 02:29:28,319
that look like

3679
02:29:31,429 --> 02:29:30,720
what people call the black knight the

3680
02:29:33,670 --> 02:29:31,439
black knight

3681
02:29:35,510 --> 02:29:33,680
satellite which sometimes is called

3682
02:29:35,990 --> 02:29:35,520
satellite sometimes it's called the ufo

3683
02:29:38,389 --> 02:29:36,000
depending

3684
02:29:39,590 --> 02:29:38,399
on you know who you're talking to but if

3685
02:29:43,110 --> 02:29:39,600
you're talking to uh

3686
02:29:45,349 --> 02:29:43,120
british uh british intelligence you know

3687
02:29:47,190 --> 02:29:45,359
uh they are always they have it in their

3688
02:29:49,990 --> 02:29:47,200
files that the black knight

3689
02:29:52,309 --> 02:29:50,000
is a is a satellite it's it was a

3690
02:29:54,790 --> 02:29:52,319
satellite that belonged to them

3691
02:29:55,670 --> 02:29:54,800
you know like 30 years ago and it just

3692
02:29:58,070 --> 02:29:55,680
somehow

3693
02:29:59,910 --> 02:29:58,080
took off on its own and was just has

3694
02:30:01,910 --> 02:29:59,920
just been up there ever since

3695
02:30:03,590 --> 02:30:01,920
uh without degrading and which is

3696
02:30:05,750 --> 02:30:03,600
impossible it's not possible

3697
02:30:07,270 --> 02:30:05,760
that could be that could be the case

3698
02:30:09,270 --> 02:30:07,280
absolutely so

3699
02:30:10,710 --> 02:30:09,280
it's just incredible i want to i got to

3700
02:30:12,710 --> 02:30:10,720
take a break right here john we'll pick

3701
02:30:14,870 --> 02:30:12,720
up everything when we come back this is

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fade to black i am your host jimmy

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about fbi's

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investigations into their version of the

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x-files

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[Music]

3791
02:34:31,270 --> 02:34:29,830
welcome back fade to black i am your

3792
02:34:33,910 --> 02:34:31,280
host jimmy church i guess tonight john

3793
02:34:37,910 --> 02:34:33,920
de souza the x-man

3794
02:34:41,270 --> 02:34:37,920
retired fbi agents talking about the

3795
02:34:42,790 --> 02:34:41,280
fbi's version of the x-files and

3796
02:34:45,349 --> 02:34:42,800
we're heading into overtime right here

3797
02:34:48,389 --> 02:34:45,359
and john this is uh a point in the show

3798
02:34:49,429 --> 02:34:48,399
when when i do get into overtime where i

3799
02:34:51,910 --> 02:34:49,439
like to have fun

3800
02:34:53,670 --> 02:34:51,920
and and get a little bit looser than we

3801
02:34:56,150 --> 02:34:53,680
are in the rest of the show but

3802
02:34:56,710 --> 02:34:56,160
this is uh some pretty heavy stuff and i

3803
02:34:58,790 --> 02:34:56,720
want to

3804
02:35:00,389 --> 02:34:58,800
go back and address a couple of points

3805
02:35:04,230 --> 02:35:00,399
that you made earlier

3806
02:35:07,190 --> 02:35:04,240
um in in fbi investigations

3807
02:35:07,750 --> 02:35:07,200
you had said uh you always see fbi

3808
02:35:11,590 --> 02:35:07,760
agents

3809
02:35:11,990 --> 02:35:11,600
in pairs so that would indicate to me

3810
02:35:14,469 --> 02:35:12,000
that

3811
02:35:15,990 --> 02:35:14,479
you and doing these investigations

3812
02:35:17,670 --> 02:35:16,000
you've got somebody that's working with

3813
02:35:21,030 --> 02:35:17,680
you too as well

3814
02:35:25,030 --> 02:35:21,040
yes right absolutely yes and they

3815
02:35:26,550 --> 02:35:25,040
are also uh they've been classified by

3816
02:35:30,630 --> 02:35:26,560
the field office

3817
02:35:32,870 --> 02:35:30,640
as being a paranormal uh investigator

3818
02:35:34,150 --> 02:35:32,880
or interest in into the paranormal and

3819
02:35:37,590 --> 02:35:34,160
ufos

3820
02:35:40,950 --> 02:35:37,600
kind of yes okay so

3821
02:35:43,830 --> 02:35:40,960
what kind of conversations did you have

3822
02:35:44,550 --> 02:35:43,840
with with your partner when you're

3823
02:35:47,349 --> 02:35:44,560
looking at

3824
02:35:48,389 --> 02:35:47,359
a photograph of of a ufo and you're

3825
02:35:50,630 --> 02:35:48,399
going into these

3826
02:35:51,429 --> 02:35:50,640
investigations take me through that how

3827
02:35:54,710 --> 02:35:51,439
do how does

3828
02:35:57,349 --> 02:35:54,720
how does that work well my my partner

3829
02:35:58,469 --> 02:35:57,359
was uh placed with me very much as a

3830
02:36:01,429 --> 02:35:58,479
counter balance

3831
02:36:02,230 --> 02:36:01,439
a counterbalance uh kind of like a

3832
02:36:05,270 --> 02:36:02,240
scully and

3833
02:36:09,270 --> 02:36:05,280
mulder mulder and scully type situation

3834
02:36:12,469 --> 02:36:09,280
right so it was a person

3835
02:36:15,030 --> 02:36:12,479
who i who i can't i can't really

3836
02:36:16,870 --> 02:36:15,040
i can't really uh bring to the light

3837
02:36:19,510 --> 02:36:16,880
because they were uh they're still

3838
02:36:21,429 --> 02:36:19,520
uh they're still serving uh at the

3839
02:36:24,550 --> 02:36:21,439
bureau in the

3840
02:36:26,870 --> 02:36:24,560
high up capacity and so i can't

3841
02:36:29,910 --> 02:36:26,880
but they were basically uh placed with

3842
02:36:32,870 --> 02:36:29,920
me uh as the scientific counterweight

3843
02:36:33,990 --> 02:36:32,880
uh to my my belief in these in these

3844
02:36:36,630 --> 02:36:34,000
areas

3845
02:36:38,389 --> 02:36:36,640
and uh very much like the x-files i was

3846
02:36:38,950 --> 02:36:38,399
a i was able eventually to bring them

3847
02:36:41,910 --> 02:36:38,960
around

3848
02:36:43,349 --> 02:36:41,920
to believing in a lot of these a lot of

3849
02:36:47,030 --> 02:36:43,359
these areas

3850
02:36:49,830 --> 02:36:47,040
and um that was so it made for some

3851
02:36:50,550 --> 02:36:49,840
pretty crazy conversations that were you

3852
02:36:53,750 --> 02:36:50,560
know

3853
02:36:54,469 --> 02:36:53,760
pretty uh heated debate let's put it

3854
02:36:56,150 --> 02:36:54,479
that way

3855
02:36:57,590 --> 02:36:56,160
and uh that's the kind of thing that we

3856
02:37:00,950 --> 02:36:57,600
went through all the time

3857
02:37:04,389 --> 02:37:00,960
did you did you ever have a file um

3858
02:37:07,910 --> 02:37:04,399
a case that you were working on with

3859
02:37:11,030 --> 02:37:07,920
a a photograph tied to it taken by

3860
02:37:14,309 --> 02:37:11,040
the the witness um that was

3861
02:37:18,950 --> 02:37:14,319
the definitive photograph

3862
02:37:21,590 --> 02:37:18,960
of an alien craft

3863
02:37:22,550 --> 02:37:21,600
you can't really have that because

3864
02:37:26,550 --> 02:37:22,560
that's

3865
02:37:29,190 --> 02:37:26,560
there's no way to know that something is

3866
02:37:31,830 --> 02:37:29,200
the absolute definitive picture of an

3867
02:37:35,910 --> 02:37:31,840
alien craft i mean

3868
02:37:37,910 --> 02:37:35,920
unless unless you count uh boyd bushmen

3869
02:37:39,110 --> 02:37:37,920
who i had many contacts with over the

3870
02:37:43,429 --> 02:37:39,120
years

3871
02:37:46,950 --> 02:37:43,439
who had many pictures of genuine air

3872
02:37:48,950 --> 02:37:46,960
alien craft that were that were uh

3873
02:37:50,309 --> 02:37:48,960
in action sometimes they were in action

3874
02:37:53,429 --> 02:37:50,319
sometimes they weren't

3875
02:37:56,469 --> 02:37:53,439
uh but he had probably the most pictures

3876
02:37:58,830 --> 02:37:56,479
of anyone i've ever known but

3877
02:37:59,990 --> 02:37:58,840
but john i'm referring to you in your

3878
02:38:02,870 --> 02:38:00,000
cases

3879
02:38:04,630 --> 02:38:02,880
did you look at a photograph and say

3880
02:38:07,830 --> 02:38:04,640
okay

3881
02:38:15,429 --> 02:38:11,750
not based on a picture of a ufo uh

3882
02:38:18,070 --> 02:38:15,439
because it's just uh there's no way to

3883
02:38:19,270 --> 02:38:18,080
really tell anything definitive from

3884
02:38:21,190 --> 02:38:19,280
just a picture

3885
02:38:23,349 --> 02:38:21,200
video is a different different story

3886
02:38:26,309 --> 02:38:23,359
there have been videos

3887
02:38:28,469 --> 02:38:26,319
that have been provided to us that show

3888
02:38:31,670 --> 02:38:28,479
all the hallmarks of

3889
02:38:34,230 --> 02:38:31,680
absolute non-terrestrial craft

3890
02:38:36,150 --> 02:38:34,240
so yeah i've seen i've seen videos that

3891
02:38:39,750 --> 02:38:36,160
do have those qualities

3892
02:38:42,870 --> 02:38:39,760
did you do any abduction cases

3893
02:38:44,870 --> 02:38:42,880
yeah we do abduction cases constantly

3894
02:38:47,110 --> 02:38:44,880
that's a large portion of the work that

3895
02:38:50,550 --> 02:38:47,120
we do really

3896
02:38:51,270 --> 02:38:50,560
yeah and now i and how does that turn

3897
02:38:55,349 --> 02:38:51,280
into an

3898
02:38:58,230 --> 02:38:55,359
fbi case i if it's a

3899
02:38:58,870 --> 02:38:58,240
if the person is kidnapped from federal

3900
02:39:03,429 --> 02:38:58,880
property

3901
02:39:05,750 --> 02:39:03,439
federal employee

3902
02:39:07,190 --> 02:39:05,760
um or they happen to be involved with a

3903
02:39:10,230 --> 02:39:07,200
violation of federal law

3904
02:39:12,309 --> 02:39:10,240
like uh you know like drugs or or

3905
02:39:13,990 --> 02:39:12,319
something or anything of that sort

3906
02:39:17,349 --> 02:39:14,000
yeah yeah i'm not talking about

3907
02:39:20,309 --> 02:39:17,359
kidnapping i mean alien abduction cases

3908
02:39:22,469 --> 02:39:20,319
right yeah we have uh there are there

3909
02:39:25,110 --> 02:39:22,479
are alien abductions that are done from

3910
02:39:25,910 --> 02:39:25,120
uh involving military personnel or

3911
02:39:29,110 --> 02:39:25,920
federal

3912
02:39:31,429 --> 02:39:29,120
employees of whatever of whatever

3913
02:39:32,469 --> 02:39:31,439
agency you're dealing with that happens

3914
02:39:37,429 --> 02:39:32,479
all the time

3915
02:39:41,270 --> 02:39:37,439
and uh well can you specifically

3916
02:39:44,950 --> 02:39:41,280
address one of these cases if

3917
02:39:46,870 --> 02:39:44,960
i mean when it turns into an fbi case

3918
02:39:48,790 --> 02:39:46,880
um it's not something that you're

3919
02:39:51,110 --> 02:39:48,800
picking up through the media or somebody

3920
02:39:52,710 --> 02:39:51,120
has said i was abducted by aliens last

3921
02:39:54,150 --> 02:39:52,720
night you're going to go and research

3922
02:39:55,990 --> 02:39:54,160
you're saying that this comes to you

3923
02:39:59,510 --> 02:39:56,000
from another channel

3924
02:40:02,070 --> 02:39:59,520
are these cases of

3925
02:40:04,230 --> 02:40:02,080
people being abducted by aliens and

3926
02:40:07,349 --> 02:40:04,240
taken on to a craft and

3927
02:40:09,910 --> 02:40:07,359
and you've you've actually

3928
02:40:11,990 --> 02:40:09,920
investigated a case that represents all

3929
02:40:14,790 --> 02:40:12,000
of the hallmarks

3930
02:40:15,830 --> 02:40:14,800
yes and according to them that's exactly

3931
02:40:19,429 --> 02:40:15,840
what happened

3932
02:40:21,190 --> 02:40:19,439
and the fbi gets these cases uh through

3933
02:40:22,550 --> 02:40:21,200
there we have a little slip of paper

3934
02:40:24,150 --> 02:40:22,560
it's called the police cooperation

3935
02:40:27,510 --> 02:40:24,160
requests it can come from a

3936
02:40:29,590 --> 02:40:27,520
military commander as well of a base and

3937
02:40:30,630 --> 02:40:29,600
we get those pieces of paper and they

3938
02:40:33,030 --> 02:40:30,640
just say

3939
02:40:34,469 --> 02:40:33,040
we need an fbi subject matter expert to

3940
02:40:37,030 --> 02:40:34,479
help us with this

3941
02:40:38,150 --> 02:40:37,040
sen went over and we got to get this

3942
02:40:41,349 --> 02:40:38,160
done because

3943
02:40:42,550 --> 02:40:41,359
usually the uh jurisdictional authority

3944
02:40:43,830 --> 02:40:42,560
doesn't know what else to do

3945
02:40:45,750 --> 02:40:43,840
they just they're at the end of their

3946
02:40:47,110 --> 02:40:45,760
rope and they have no idea what to do

3947
02:40:48,550 --> 02:40:47,120
with this sort of situation because they

3948
02:40:50,550 --> 02:40:48,560
never had it before

3949
02:40:51,990 --> 02:40:50,560
so that's how those things come up how

3950
02:40:56,630 --> 02:40:52,000
serious does your

3951
02:40:59,830 --> 02:40:56,640
your boss uh whoever he or she may be

3952
02:41:01,750 --> 02:40:59,840
take these cases individually i mean is

3953
02:41:02,550 --> 02:41:01,760
this something that's joked about or is

3954
02:41:07,190 --> 02:41:02,560
this

3955
02:41:10,550 --> 02:41:08,950
the fbi they take it very they take it

3956
02:41:13,110 --> 02:41:10,560
very seriously because

3957
02:41:15,269 --> 02:41:13,120
they simply ignore the the component the

3958
02:41:17,830 --> 02:41:15,279
paranormal component of it

3959
02:41:19,590 --> 02:41:17,840
so if they see somebody claiming an

3960
02:41:21,429 --> 02:41:19,600
alien abduction

3961
02:41:23,510 --> 02:41:21,439
they will simply consider it to be a

3962
02:41:25,750 --> 02:41:23,520
straight abduction

3963
02:41:27,590 --> 02:41:25,760
possibly one including uh involving

3964
02:41:30,790 --> 02:41:27,600
national security because

3965
02:41:31,590 --> 02:41:30,800
you know maybe it's uh the craft was uh

3966
02:41:33,110 --> 02:41:31,600
the supposed

3967
02:41:35,429 --> 02:41:33,120
aliens maybe they were really the

3968
02:41:37,510 --> 02:41:35,439
russians uh creating something

3969
02:41:38,630 --> 02:41:37,520
maybe it was really the chinese creating

3970
02:41:40,790 --> 02:41:38,640
something uh

3971
02:41:41,910 --> 02:41:40,800
so that that's how they look at it so

3972
02:41:43,750 --> 02:41:41,920
that they can

3973
02:41:46,150 --> 02:41:43,760
deal with that sort of investigation on

3974
02:41:47,830 --> 02:41:46,160
the ground in a serious manner

3975
02:41:50,150 --> 02:41:47,840
now and when you're doing an

3976
02:41:53,269 --> 02:41:50,160
investigation like this

3977
02:41:55,590 --> 02:41:53,279
does the fbi experience their own agency

3978
02:41:58,389 --> 02:41:55,600
coming in and running interference

3979
02:42:00,469 --> 02:41:58,399
or or getting involved uh with your

3980
02:42:04,550 --> 02:42:00,479
investigation

3981
02:42:08,710 --> 02:42:04,560
sometimes we will get what's what i call

3982
02:42:11,830 --> 02:42:08,720
the uh the visit from the smoking man

3983
02:42:13,269 --> 02:42:11,840
the smoking man was for me it was a

3984
02:42:14,469 --> 02:42:13,279
government official i used to call

3985
02:42:17,269 --> 02:42:14,479
milsud

3986
02:42:18,870 --> 02:42:17,279
he was he was kind of a he was a

3987
02:42:21,510 --> 02:42:18,880
globalist official

3988
02:42:22,950 --> 02:42:21,520
that would always be around would always

3989
02:42:25,349 --> 02:42:22,960
be around whenever

3990
02:42:26,550 --> 02:42:25,359
these really high level investigations

3991
02:42:29,269 --> 02:42:26,560
would go on

3992
02:42:31,110 --> 02:42:29,279
and and i talked about some of these

3993
02:42:33,510 --> 02:42:31,120
high-level investigations

3994
02:42:34,389 --> 02:42:33,520
uh and these these great cases with the

3995
02:42:36,950 --> 02:42:34,399
great video

3996
02:42:38,550 --> 02:42:36,960
that we just talked about in my in my

3997
02:42:39,750 --> 02:42:38,560
book the extra dimensionals that's the

3998
02:42:41,269 --> 02:42:39,760
first place

3999
02:42:43,429 --> 02:42:41,279
that i actually laid out these

4000
02:42:43,910 --> 02:42:43,439
investigations uh laid out what the

4001
02:42:46,950 --> 02:42:43,920
video

4002
02:42:47,990 --> 02:42:46,960
showed laid out all these uh all these

4003
02:42:50,389 --> 02:42:48,000
parameters

4004
02:42:52,070 --> 02:42:50,399
that occurred when all of us

4005
02:42:52,950 --> 02:42:52,080
intelligence agencies were all talking

4006
02:42:55,590 --> 02:42:52,960
to each other

4007
02:42:56,550 --> 02:42:55,600
about these videos about these cases and

4008
02:42:58,950 --> 02:42:56,560
we were

4009
02:43:00,550 --> 02:42:58,960
and always the first priority was we got

4010
02:43:04,550 --> 02:43:00,560
to control the information

4011
02:43:06,309 --> 02:43:04,560
what would happen in a lot of these

4012
02:43:08,790 --> 02:43:06,319
cases we would get the visit

4013
02:43:10,389 --> 02:43:08,800
from the smoking man that i called um

4014
02:43:13,429 --> 02:43:10,399
who i called masood

4015
02:43:14,070 --> 02:43:13,439
uh he he sometimes claimed to be from

4016
02:43:15,269 --> 02:43:14,080
the cia

4017
02:43:17,510 --> 02:43:15,279
sometimes he claimed to be from the

4018
02:43:19,830 --> 02:43:17,520
state department but all we knew was

4019
02:43:22,710 --> 02:43:19,840
that our bosses always did whatever

4020
02:43:23,030 --> 02:43:22,720
whatever he wanted i almost said a bad

4021
02:43:26,469 --> 02:43:23,040
word

4022
02:43:29,830 --> 02:43:26,479
he always did whatever he wanted uh and

4023
02:43:32,550 --> 02:43:29,840
he was the guy who would come down

4024
02:43:34,710 --> 02:43:32,560
and uh and we always knew we saw that

4025
02:43:38,389 --> 02:43:34,720
smoke coming from our boss's office

4026
02:43:40,389 --> 02:43:38,399
we knew that no sued was here and

4027
02:43:42,710 --> 02:43:40,399
it meant that he was putting a stop to

4028
02:43:43,750 --> 02:43:42,720
whatever we did or whatever we're trying

4029
02:43:45,670 --> 02:43:43,760
to do

4030
02:43:47,670 --> 02:43:45,680
and that happened that's what happened

4031
02:43:51,110 --> 02:43:47,680
most often with a lot of these big

4032
02:43:53,269 --> 02:43:51,120
cases how do you say his name miss sood

4033
02:43:55,110 --> 02:43:53,279
bill suit we used to call him mil suit

4034
02:43:57,190 --> 02:43:55,120
that was an acronym for something that i

4035
02:43:59,990 --> 02:43:57,200
don't even remember what it was because

4036
02:44:01,750 --> 02:44:00,000
we never really knew his real name

4037
02:44:03,670 --> 02:44:01,760
but that was what we used to call him

4038
02:44:06,070 --> 02:44:03,680
but he smoked

4039
02:44:06,710 --> 02:44:06,080
he was he was he was always smoking all

4040
02:44:08,070 --> 02:44:06,720
the time

4041
02:44:11,590 --> 02:44:08,080
in places that you're not allowed to

4042
02:44:13,190 --> 02:44:11,600
smoke so the smokey man was based on an

4043
02:44:17,110 --> 02:44:13,200
actual character

4044
02:44:20,389 --> 02:44:17,120
an actual individual yes that was masood

4045
02:44:23,110 --> 02:44:20,399
yeah and he was just he was the guy who

4046
02:44:24,389 --> 02:44:23,120
came to us and would tell us you know

4047
02:44:26,150 --> 02:44:24,399
did you have okay

4048
02:44:28,230 --> 02:44:26,160
did you have direct conversations with

4049
02:44:30,710 --> 02:44:28,240
him in contact

4050
02:44:32,230 --> 02:44:30,720
just a couple of times when he wanted to

4051
02:44:35,030 --> 02:44:32,240
when he wanted it yes

4052
02:44:35,910 --> 02:44:35,040
and and what did he talk about see and

4053
02:44:38,230 --> 02:44:35,920
the real well

4054
02:44:39,910 --> 02:44:38,240
i'm asking you in this capacity it

4055
02:44:42,950 --> 02:44:39,920
seemed that

4056
02:44:46,309 --> 02:44:42,960
uh when you looked at the x-files

4057
02:44:49,030 --> 02:44:46,319
there was always one step away

4058
02:44:49,830 --> 02:44:49,040
from the e.t reality when it came to the

4059
02:44:52,950 --> 02:44:49,840
smoking man

4060
02:44:54,790 --> 02:44:52,960
it never crossed the line everybody knew

4061
02:44:57,830 --> 02:44:54,800
what was going on he had an

4062
02:45:02,309 --> 02:44:57,840
agenda it had to do with aliens and e.t

4063
02:45:05,510 --> 02:45:02,319
um for some globalist organization

4064
02:45:09,750 --> 02:45:05,520
but it was never that line was never

4065
02:45:12,710 --> 02:45:09,760
crossed right was that your experience

4066
02:45:13,510 --> 02:45:12,720
absolutely because he had the levers of

4067
02:45:16,550 --> 02:45:13,520
power

4068
02:45:19,510 --> 02:45:16,560
he had the ability to um

4069
02:45:19,990 --> 02:45:19,520
he had the ability to tell our bosses

4070
02:45:23,990 --> 02:45:20,000
this

4071
02:45:27,190 --> 02:45:24,000
to happen one day

4072
02:45:29,269 --> 02:45:27,200
we one day we asked him you know

4073
02:45:30,710 --> 02:45:29,279
are his orders are they coming from the

4074
02:45:32,950 --> 02:45:30,720
president's office

4075
02:45:33,910 --> 02:45:32,960
is that is that where you get your

4076
02:45:38,950 --> 02:45:33,920
orders

4077
02:45:42,710 --> 02:45:38,960
come from above the president's office

4078
02:45:43,990 --> 02:45:42,720
and then he walked away and we

4079
02:45:45,990 --> 02:45:44,000
know that there's nobody above

4080
02:45:47,750 --> 02:45:46,000
president's office so

4081
02:45:50,309 --> 02:45:47,760
that's just an example of the kind of

4082
02:45:52,469 --> 02:45:50,319
arrogance that a person like that has

4083
02:45:54,710 --> 02:45:52,479
and that's how he was always able to

4084
02:45:56,710 --> 02:45:54,720
stop whatever he wanted to stop

4085
02:45:59,590 --> 02:45:56,720
and he would give us you know he would

4086
02:46:01,670 --> 02:45:59,600
give me flowery speeches about

4087
02:46:03,110 --> 02:46:01,680
how it's for the greater good it's for

4088
02:46:06,710 --> 02:46:03,120
the greater good it's for

4089
02:46:09,670 --> 02:46:06,720
people's well-being we can't have people

4090
02:46:11,190 --> 02:46:09,680
panicking and running wild in the

4091
02:46:13,110 --> 02:46:11,200
streets because

4092
02:46:15,349 --> 02:46:13,120
their version of reality they find out

4093
02:46:19,030 --> 02:46:15,359
isn't true that's what he would tell me

4094
02:46:23,190 --> 02:46:19,040
but so it sounds like he

4095
02:46:26,469 --> 02:46:23,200
didn't want the investigations were fine

4096
02:46:27,429 --> 02:46:26,479
only to a point right right he didn't

4097
02:46:31,190 --> 02:46:27,439
want actual

4098
02:46:34,469 --> 02:46:31,200
truth revealed to you he didn't want you

4099
02:46:37,349 --> 02:46:34,479
finding out the the the facts

4100
02:46:39,510 --> 02:46:37,359
yeah well he he knew that we had the

4101
02:46:41,990 --> 02:46:39,520
facts he knew that we knew the truth

4102
02:46:42,870 --> 02:46:42,000
uh but uh he said these things couldn't

4103
02:46:46,309 --> 02:46:42,880
go out

4104
02:46:49,349 --> 02:46:46,319
uh spread in the larger capacity to uh

4105
02:46:53,190 --> 02:46:49,359
to the public at large basically

4106
02:46:56,389 --> 02:46:53,200
now um ultimately um the fbi

4107
02:47:00,070 --> 02:46:56,399
investigates uh because of

4108
02:47:02,469 --> 02:47:00,080
uh a criminal nature eventually

4109
02:47:04,389 --> 02:47:02,479
charges would be filed somewhere with

4110
02:47:08,630 --> 02:47:04,399
the federal district attorney

4111
02:47:11,910 --> 02:47:08,640
right a federal attorney somewhere

4112
02:47:14,150 --> 02:47:11,920
some district your investigations

4113
02:47:15,910 --> 02:47:14,160
into the paranormal ultimately don't

4114
02:47:20,950 --> 02:47:15,920
result in that do they

4115
02:47:24,950 --> 02:47:20,960
how do you close an investigation oh

4116
02:47:28,230 --> 02:47:24,960
you know most fbi investigations

4117
02:47:31,590 --> 02:47:28,240
uh can are can be

4118
02:47:33,429 --> 02:47:31,600
many fbi investigations can be closed in

4119
02:47:36,469 --> 02:47:33,439
an indeterminate status

4120
02:47:38,950 --> 02:47:36,479
can be closed in a status where

4121
02:47:41,750 --> 02:47:38,960
they were never able to get past the

4122
02:47:42,950 --> 02:47:41,760
preliminary inquiry part

4123
02:47:44,950 --> 02:47:42,960
we start our investigations as

4124
02:47:46,830 --> 02:47:44,960
preliminary inquiries then

4125
02:47:48,150 --> 02:47:46,840
they're supposed to go to full

4126
02:47:50,710 --> 02:47:48,160
investigations

4127
02:47:52,309 --> 02:47:50,720
then after that they're supposed to go

4128
02:47:54,790 --> 02:47:52,319
to major cases

4129
02:47:56,469 --> 02:47:54,800
major cases and each of each one of

4130
02:47:57,349 --> 02:47:56,479
those has a different order of

4131
02:47:59,429 --> 02:47:57,359
importance

4132
02:48:01,030 --> 02:47:59,439
and a different order of cooperation

4133
02:48:04,309 --> 02:48:01,040
from from everyone

4134
02:48:07,510 --> 02:48:04,319
can be demanded at that point uh but

4135
02:48:08,230 --> 02:48:07,520
uh many cases never get out of the first

4136
02:48:10,070 --> 02:48:08,240
stage

4137
02:48:11,190 --> 02:48:10,080
preliminary inquiry they never get out

4138
02:48:12,070 --> 02:48:11,200
of the first stage because there's just

4139
02:48:17,030 --> 02:48:12,080
not enough

4140
02:48:19,190 --> 02:48:17,040
political will i'll have to say

4141
02:48:22,630 --> 02:48:19,200
political will uh there's not enough

4142
02:48:25,269 --> 02:48:22,640
impetus uh behind them to uh get them

4143
02:48:26,389 --> 02:48:25,279
to that full investigation uh status

4144
02:48:28,550 --> 02:48:26,399
where all the

4145
02:48:30,469 --> 02:48:28,560
where most of the arrests happen and

4146
02:48:31,349 --> 02:48:30,479
presentations to us attorneys that you

4147
02:48:33,110 --> 02:48:31,359
just said

4148
02:48:34,950 --> 02:48:33,120
all that stuff happens at the full

4149
02:48:36,309 --> 02:48:34,960
investigation stage

4150
02:48:37,990 --> 02:48:36,319
so that's the difference that we're

4151
02:48:40,630 --> 02:48:38,000
looking at in these

4152
02:48:41,670 --> 02:48:40,640
and a lot of these paranormal cases they

4153
02:48:46,150 --> 02:48:41,680
won't

4154
02:48:49,670 --> 02:48:46,160
higher stage

4155
02:48:51,750 --> 02:48:49,680
simply because when the bosses see

4156
02:48:53,030 --> 02:48:51,760
that the physical explanations have been

4157
02:48:54,309 --> 02:48:53,040
exhausted

4158
02:48:56,309 --> 02:48:54,319
and there's nothing left but the

4159
02:48:58,309 --> 02:48:56,319
paranormal explanation

4160
02:49:00,309 --> 02:48:58,319
they're just not willing to promote that

4161
02:49:02,309 --> 02:49:00,319
investigation to the next level

4162
02:49:04,150 --> 02:49:02,319
so what's going to happen with american

4163
02:49:07,750 --> 02:49:04,160
airlines 2292

4164
02:49:10,070 --> 02:49:07,760
the fbi is investigating now that

4165
02:49:12,710 --> 02:49:10,080
that is something it seems like you have

4166
02:49:16,070 --> 02:49:12,720
all of the elements in play here

4167
02:49:18,710 --> 02:49:16,080
to to get to a

4168
02:49:22,309 --> 02:49:18,720
some type of finality in this case

4169
02:49:25,110 --> 02:49:22,319
what's going to happen with 2292

4170
02:49:27,030 --> 02:49:25,120
well you know i just i just did the

4171
02:49:30,550 --> 02:49:27,040
whole investigation

4172
02:49:33,910 --> 02:49:30,560
uh in my head and i wrote down

4173
02:49:34,710 --> 02:49:33,920
the three the three options uh that we

4174
02:49:39,030 --> 02:49:34,720
have

4175
02:49:43,670 --> 02:49:39,040
and uh i don't and i really

4176
02:49:46,710 --> 02:49:43,680
don't see that the fbi can ultimately

4177
02:49:47,590 --> 02:49:46,720
uh make find a conclusion on any of the

4178
02:49:49,269 --> 02:49:47,600
three

4179
02:49:52,230 --> 02:49:49,279
that i put down you know i put down the

4180
02:49:55,429 --> 02:49:52,240
first possibility this is a space force

4181
02:49:58,230 --> 02:49:55,439
asset that um you know

4182
02:49:59,110 --> 02:49:58,240
was just testing that was just testing

4183
02:50:01,990 --> 02:49:59,120
which would

4184
02:50:03,030 --> 02:50:02,000
create liability create liability on

4185
02:50:06,070 --> 02:50:03,040
space force

4186
02:50:07,590 --> 02:50:06,080
uh for for doing this uh the second

4187
02:50:09,750 --> 02:50:07,600
possibility is that

4188
02:50:11,750 --> 02:50:09,760
it's actually a cruise missile it was a

4189
02:50:15,030 --> 02:50:11,760
cruise missile that had a near miss

4190
02:50:17,830 --> 02:50:15,040
against the united states airline that

4191
02:50:19,110 --> 02:50:17,840
um i don't think they could come to that

4192
02:50:20,389 --> 02:50:19,120
conclusion i don't think they could do

4193
02:50:25,349 --> 02:50:20,399
that

4194
02:50:28,230 --> 02:50:25,359
involve

4195
02:50:30,550 --> 02:50:28,240
i mean tremendous tremendous assets and

4196
02:50:32,550 --> 02:50:30,560
i don't think they're ready to do that

4197
02:50:34,309 --> 02:50:32,560
and then the third possibility

4198
02:50:36,950 --> 02:50:34,319
conclusion that they could come up with

4199
02:50:37,910 --> 02:50:36,960
that this is part of the continuing uap

4200
02:50:40,389 --> 02:50:37,920
campaign

4201
02:50:41,269 --> 02:50:40,399
to gin up fear of these ufos and to lead

4202
02:50:42,950 --> 02:50:41,279
us towards

4203
02:50:45,110 --> 02:50:42,960
fake alien invasion i don't think they

4204
02:50:47,110 --> 02:50:45,120
can come to that conclusion either

4205
02:50:48,389 --> 02:50:47,120
because this group is just too powerful

4206
02:50:50,950 --> 02:50:48,399
they're too powerful

4207
02:50:52,309 --> 02:50:50,960
and they include too many institutions

4208
02:50:55,510 --> 02:50:52,319
uh that's doing this

4209
02:50:58,389 --> 02:50:55,520
if that's if that's the case so my

4210
02:50:59,830 --> 02:50:58,399
so i say all that to say this i don't

4211
02:51:01,349 --> 02:50:59,840
think the fbi is going to come to any

4212
02:51:03,830 --> 02:51:01,359
conclusions on this

4213
02:51:04,469 --> 02:51:03,840
uh that that help anybody i i think

4214
02:51:06,150 --> 02:51:04,479
there

4215
02:51:08,469 --> 02:51:06,160
and that goes right back jimmy to what i

4216
02:51:10,950 --> 02:51:08,479
said we need independent investigators

4217
02:51:13,830 --> 02:51:10,960
uh to take this kind of investigation on

4218
02:51:16,830 --> 02:51:13,840
well the the fourth conclusion is

4219
02:51:18,150 --> 02:51:16,840
uh that it's an et craft that it is

4220
02:51:21,269 --> 02:51:18,160
something wow

4221
02:51:23,510 --> 02:51:21,279
that's yes that's great that is correct

4222
02:51:24,790 --> 02:51:23,520
and uh i think that that would probably

4223
02:51:26,790 --> 02:51:24,800
be the safest

4224
02:51:29,190 --> 02:51:26,800
conclusion for them to come to if they

4225
02:51:31,190 --> 02:51:29,200
if they come to any sort of conclusion

4226
02:51:32,550 --> 02:51:31,200
uh so yeah maybe they'll maybe they'll

4227
02:51:34,790 --> 02:51:32,560
end up coming to that one

4228
02:51:35,590 --> 02:51:34,800
or they'll use the uh the mind control

4229
02:51:38,070 --> 02:51:35,600
phrase

4230
02:51:39,030 --> 02:51:38,080
uh that is used by this group this

4231
02:51:42,150 --> 02:51:39,040
proves

4232
02:51:45,990 --> 02:51:42,160
that we are not alone in the universe

4233
02:51:50,469 --> 02:51:46,000
now what about uh yes yes um

4234
02:51:53,670 --> 02:51:50,479
isn't there especially over new mexico

4235
02:51:56,389 --> 02:51:53,680
and i mean more so than new york or los

4236
02:51:57,830 --> 02:51:56,399
angeles there's got to be a ton of radar

4237
02:51:59,830 --> 02:51:57,840
installations there

4238
02:52:00,870 --> 02:51:59,840
there's got to be an accountability

4239
02:52:04,630 --> 02:52:00,880
about what

4240
02:52:07,349 --> 02:52:04,640
was uh uh

4241
02:52:08,630 --> 02:52:07,359
not not exactly what the craft was but

4242
02:52:12,469 --> 02:52:08,640
that there was an

4243
02:52:16,230 --> 02:52:12,479
object there that was being tracked

4244
02:52:19,750 --> 02:52:16,240
on radar right of course that's why

4245
02:52:22,950 --> 02:52:19,760
it's that's why it's ridiculous uh

4246
02:52:24,630 --> 02:52:22,960
for for the fbi not to come to a quick

4247
02:52:26,550 --> 02:52:24,640
conclusion on this thing

4248
02:52:27,750 --> 02:52:26,560
because they've got they've got lots of

4249
02:52:30,150 --> 02:52:27,760
radar over there

4250
02:52:31,990 --> 02:52:30,160
and uh and not only that they've got

4251
02:52:35,110 --> 02:52:32,000
radar prints they've got prints

4252
02:52:37,269 --> 02:52:35,120
uh that show what the exhaust from a

4253
02:52:39,110 --> 02:52:37,279
cruise missile looks like

4254
02:52:40,870 --> 02:52:39,120
they can do a match like a fingerprint

4255
02:52:43,590 --> 02:52:40,880
match they can match it up

4256
02:52:44,790 --> 02:52:43,600
and see was is a cruise missile or not

4257
02:52:47,590 --> 02:52:44,800
they could resolve that

4258
02:52:48,630 --> 02:52:47,600
with the radar in very short order or

4259
02:52:50,630 --> 02:52:48,640
and or they could

4260
02:52:52,790 --> 02:52:50,640
explore other possibilities using all

4261
02:52:55,910 --> 02:52:52,800
that radar that's going on over there

4262
02:52:56,870 --> 02:52:55,920
so it's just it's just uh too bad that

4263
02:52:59,110 --> 02:52:56,880
we're

4264
02:53:01,190 --> 02:52:59,120
living at a time when i don't i don't

4265
02:53:05,670 --> 02:53:01,200
trust what the fbi is doing at all

4266
02:53:08,790 --> 02:53:05,680
now isn't isn't this a situation where

4267
02:53:10,150 --> 02:53:08,800
i mean i would assume that if i'm the

4268
02:53:12,870 --> 02:53:10,160
president of the united

4269
02:53:13,269 --> 02:53:12,880
states right now it's uh president biden

4270
02:53:16,630 --> 02:53:13,279
but

4271
02:53:19,910 --> 02:53:16,640
something like this happens in in

4272
02:53:23,030 --> 02:53:19,920
uh american air space that

4273
02:53:25,269 --> 02:53:23,040
the president says wait a minute what's

4274
02:53:27,110 --> 02:53:25,279
going on here

4275
02:53:28,389 --> 02:53:27,120
doesn't the president have weight in

4276
02:53:31,990 --> 02:53:28,399
this isn't there

4277
02:53:33,750 --> 02:53:32,000
a way for him to to make sure that we

4278
02:53:36,830 --> 02:53:33,760
find out exactly

4279
02:53:39,030 --> 02:53:36,840
what went on in the skies over new

4280
02:53:41,030 --> 02:53:39,040
mexico

4281
02:53:42,469 --> 02:53:41,040
yeah that should be a very that should

4282
02:53:44,230 --> 02:53:42,479
be a very simple one

4283
02:53:45,910 --> 02:53:44,240
uh and really it shouldn't even it

4284
02:53:47,269 --> 02:53:45,920
should never even need to get to the

4285
02:53:49,429 --> 02:53:47,279
level of the president

4286
02:53:50,790 --> 02:53:49,439
this should be this should be resolved

4287
02:53:53,349 --> 02:53:50,800
this should be resolved

4288
02:53:55,590 --> 02:53:53,359
at lower at lower levels than that and

4289
02:53:58,870 --> 02:53:55,600
there's no reason there's no excuse

4290
02:53:59,670 --> 02:53:58,880
why it wouldn't be unless they just want

4291
02:54:02,950 --> 02:53:59,680
to keep this

4292
02:54:06,230 --> 02:54:02,960
unresolved for a period of time

4293
02:54:07,349 --> 02:54:06,240
going into the six month countdown to

4294
02:54:10,630 --> 02:54:07,359
disclosure

4295
02:54:13,990 --> 02:54:10,640
that's uh going on i think till june

4296
02:54:15,670 --> 02:54:14,000
yeah coming out in june and uh that's

4297
02:54:17,349 --> 02:54:15,680
that i would say would be the only

4298
02:54:19,429 --> 02:54:17,359
reason that they wouldn't just do a

4299
02:54:21,830 --> 02:54:19,439
quick turnaround on this investigation

4300
02:54:22,710 --> 02:54:21,840
and say exactly what happened now here

4301
02:54:24,790 --> 02:54:22,720
we are

4302
02:54:26,469 --> 02:54:24,800
uh i just got a couple of minutes left

4303
02:54:29,030 --> 02:54:26,479
uh with you jonathan thank you it's been

4304
02:54:32,550 --> 02:54:29,040
a great conversation tonight

4305
02:54:36,230 --> 02:54:32,560
um are we in the days of disclosure

4306
02:54:37,510 --> 02:54:36,240
not not the 2017 new york times version

4307
02:54:40,630 --> 02:54:37,520
of disclosure

4308
02:54:43,349 --> 02:54:40,640
we're now in in 2021

4309
02:54:45,349 --> 02:54:43,359
are we in the days of disclosure now is

4310
02:54:47,590 --> 02:54:45,359
this what the ufo community has been

4311
02:54:50,870 --> 02:54:47,600
waiting for

4312
02:54:53,750 --> 02:54:50,880
um no not not this

4313
02:54:54,710 --> 02:54:53,760
not the uh six month countdown uh no i

4314
02:54:57,750 --> 02:54:54,720
don't think it is

4315
02:54:59,110 --> 02:54:57,760
at all uh but but i still think that

4316
02:55:01,429 --> 02:54:59,120
disclosure is coming

4317
02:55:02,950 --> 02:55:01,439
but it's coming from an unexpected place

4318
02:55:04,469 --> 02:55:02,960
what's up becoming

4319
02:55:06,230 --> 02:55:04,479
space force i think it's going to be

4320
02:55:09,429 --> 02:55:06,240
coming from space force

4321
02:55:10,389 --> 02:55:09,439
and it'll be coming from them uh in a

4322
02:55:13,510 --> 02:55:10,399
short order

4323
02:55:16,710 --> 02:55:13,520
basically and they'll be revealing with

4324
02:55:19,670 --> 02:55:16,720
technology alien tech and with uh

4325
02:55:21,349 --> 02:55:19,680
things that can actually help us help me

4326
02:55:22,230 --> 02:55:21,359
understand what you're suggesting here

4327
02:55:25,750 --> 02:55:22,240
why would it

4328
02:55:30,230 --> 02:55:25,760
okay alien tech but what do you mean the

4329
02:55:32,870 --> 02:55:30,240
space force the space force is going to

4330
02:55:34,630 --> 02:55:32,880
evidence for photographs videotape are

4331
02:55:36,870 --> 02:55:34,640
they going to get attacked

4332
02:55:38,389 --> 02:55:36,880
or you know what do you mean its

4333
02:55:39,510 --> 02:55:38,399
disclosure is going to come from the

4334
02:55:41,910 --> 02:55:39,520
space force

4335
02:55:44,389 --> 02:55:41,920
what definitive what definitive thing

4336
02:55:46,230 --> 02:55:44,399
would happen from the space force

4337
02:55:47,429 --> 02:55:46,240
i think space force is going to come up

4338
02:55:51,110 --> 02:55:47,439
with uh

4339
02:55:54,790 --> 02:55:51,120
materials materials from from crafts

4340
02:55:57,510 --> 02:55:54,800
and materials from you know even from

4341
02:55:59,110 --> 02:55:57,520
other places from other places where

4342
02:56:02,469 --> 02:55:59,120
they will be able to show

4343
02:56:05,510 --> 02:56:02,479
alien tech uh demonstrate it and

4344
02:56:08,230 --> 02:56:05,520
even even disperse it to uh the american

4345
02:56:11,990 --> 02:56:08,240
public as well

4346
02:56:13,510 --> 02:56:12,000
uh what did you make of uh and i've just

4347
02:56:16,469 --> 02:56:13,520
got a minute

4348
02:56:18,870 --> 02:56:16,479
uh dr eric davis a couple of months ago

4349
02:56:21,269 --> 02:56:18,880
in the new york times uh leslie kane and

4350
02:56:23,110 --> 02:56:21,279
ralph blumenthal wrote another article

4351
02:56:25,830 --> 02:56:23,120
and buried in the article down at the

4352
02:56:26,550 --> 02:56:25,840
bottom there was a quote from dr eric

4353
02:56:29,590 --> 02:56:26,560
davis

4354
02:56:32,710 --> 02:56:29,600
where he said quoting

4355
02:56:36,790 --> 02:56:32,720
that he briefed the united states

4356
02:56:38,469 --> 02:56:36,800
senate and told them that our military

4357
02:56:41,830 --> 02:56:38,479
was in possession of

4358
02:56:43,269 --> 02:56:41,840
crashed flying saucers that's a pretty

4359
02:56:46,070 --> 02:56:43,279
bold statement but it was

4360
02:56:46,710 --> 02:56:46,080
buried in the article but it was there

4361
02:56:49,990 --> 02:56:46,720
with like

4362
02:56:51,030 --> 02:56:50,000
zero follow-up from the media and nobody

4363
02:56:53,349 --> 02:56:51,040
went back and asked

4364
02:56:54,389 --> 02:56:53,359
uh dr eric davis where he got his

4365
02:56:57,510 --> 02:56:54,399
information from

4366
02:56:59,110 --> 02:56:57,520
but it was obviously vetted because

4367
02:57:02,230 --> 02:56:59,120
the new york times thought that they

4368
02:57:03,990 --> 02:57:02,240
could print it and they did

4369
02:57:05,429 --> 02:57:04,000
what did you make of that quote from dr

4370
02:57:07,830 --> 02:57:05,439
eric davis and what do you think he was

4371
02:57:11,590 --> 02:57:07,840
talking about

4372
02:57:13,750 --> 02:57:11,600
well i don't really i don't really

4373
02:57:16,230 --> 02:57:13,760
trust anything that's from this group

4374
02:57:18,790 --> 02:57:16,240
that has been associated with uh

4375
02:57:20,150 --> 02:57:18,800
ttsa i don't i don't trust any of them

4376
02:57:22,070 --> 02:57:20,160
and i don't trust anything

4377
02:57:23,510 --> 02:57:22,080
that the new york times puts forward

4378
02:57:25,590 --> 02:57:23,520
either so

4379
02:57:27,190 --> 02:57:25,600
that's kind of like distrust times two

4380
02:57:29,030 --> 02:57:27,200
squared even

4381
02:57:30,469 --> 02:57:29,040
so um i don't really think that that's

4382
02:57:33,510 --> 02:57:30,479
taking us anywhere good

4383
02:57:36,630 --> 02:57:33,520
either well there you go okay so now

4384
02:57:38,550 --> 02:57:36,640
uh what's going on with you uh what do

4385
02:57:40,469 --> 02:57:38,560
i know that you've got uh the new uh

4386
02:57:43,910 --> 02:57:40,479
film that is out that uh

4387
02:57:46,950 --> 02:57:43,920
is a countdown due uh to disclosure

4388
02:57:49,190 --> 02:57:46,960
um excellent film by the way um what is

4389
02:57:52,550 --> 02:57:49,200
coming up next for you

4390
02:57:53,429 --> 02:57:52,560
um well i'm still got my uh my film out

4391
02:57:56,150 --> 02:57:53,439
my

4392
02:57:56,950 --> 02:57:56,160
movie out a thousand pieces thousand

4393
02:57:59,830 --> 02:57:56,960
pieces

4394
02:58:02,830 --> 02:57:59,840
on vimeo on for mayo on demand i would

4395
02:58:12,550 --> 02:58:02,840
ask anybody to go there and

4396
02:58:18,389 --> 02:58:15,590
and general flynn and many other people

4397
02:58:19,990 --> 02:58:18,399
who were targeted by the deep state and

4398
02:58:22,230 --> 02:58:20,000
how they went after us

4399
02:58:24,630 --> 02:58:22,240
and what they tried to do to us and how

4400
02:58:26,710 --> 02:58:24,640
we ultimately escaped also

4401
02:58:28,790 --> 02:58:26,720
so that's a very very interesting thing

4402
02:58:29,990 --> 02:58:28,800
i would ask people go to alva mayo.com

4403
02:58:32,950 --> 02:58:30,000
on demand

4404
02:58:33,910 --> 02:58:32,960
and enter code d'souza gift this is a

4405
02:58:35,990 --> 02:58:33,920
gift for 20

4406
02:58:37,750 --> 02:58:36,000
off there you go see a thousand pieces

4407
02:58:40,070 --> 02:58:37,760
see a thousand pieces

4408
02:58:41,750 --> 02:58:40,080
and uh other than that you know i also

4409
02:58:43,750 --> 02:58:41,760
would ask people to um

4410
02:58:44,870 --> 02:58:43,760
check out john time of books from the

4411
02:58:48,870 --> 02:58:44,880
author uh

4412
02:58:50,630 --> 02:58:48,880
take 20 discount using code fbi

4413
02:58:52,469 --> 02:58:50,640
that's what i'm talking about john de

4414
02:58:54,070 --> 02:58:52,479
souza thank you so much

4415
02:58:55,830 --> 02:58:54,080
i don't know it's been so long since

4416
02:58:57,910 --> 02:58:55,840
i've seen you in person

4417
02:58:59,110 --> 02:58:57,920
and the pandemic and everything else but

4418
02:59:00,790 --> 02:58:59,120
i look forward

4419
02:59:03,030 --> 02:59:00,800
to uh hanging out with you and bella

4420
02:59:05,910 --> 02:59:03,040
once again and and and rita and i

4421
02:59:06,710 --> 02:59:05,920
and we've got to do it as soon as we can

4422
02:59:08,070 --> 02:59:06,720
cool jimmy

4423
02:59:09,750 --> 02:59:08,080
thanks so much thanks to you and the

4424
02:59:11,750 --> 02:59:09,760
fader knots you guys are awesome

4425
02:59:14,710 --> 02:59:11,760
you're the best john thank you so much

4426
02:59:17,910 --> 02:59:14,720
and there you go john desouza the x-men

4427
02:59:18,630 --> 02:59:17,920
and john's link is right there john tama

4428
02:59:21,830 --> 02:59:18,640
books

4429
02:59:23,510 --> 02:59:21,840
over at jimmychurchradio.com and with

4430
02:59:25,670 --> 02:59:23,520
that we just want pole to pole in

4431
02:59:26,950 --> 02:59:25,680
overtime great conversation tonight i'm

4432
02:59:28,630 --> 02:59:26,960
going to get out of here

4433
02:59:30,309 --> 02:59:28,640
want to remind everybody what's going on

4434
02:59:33,030 --> 02:59:30,319
tomorrow night of course

4435
02:59:34,150 --> 02:59:33,040
we have jim harold from the paranormal

4436
02:59:36,309 --> 02:59:34,160
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4437
02:59:38,309 --> 02:59:36,319
and uh so that's tomorrow night payton

4438
02:59:41,750 --> 02:59:38,319
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4439
02:59:44,550 --> 02:59:41,760
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4440
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4456
03:00:19,110 --> 03:00:17,040
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03:00:27,900 --> 03:00:19,120
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4459
03:00:50,830 --> 03:00:30,680
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